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  • SN!PER
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    #81
    Anyone whose fist can reach Wladimir's chin is tall enough.

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      #82
      Originally posted by daggum
      i'm focusing on how they look because the way you look translates to athletic ability. if fat blobs could move around and box effectively i wouldn't care now would i? please answer why in other weight divisions there are no fat blobs? why don't lightweights get lazy and eat a lot so they can fight at super middleweight? they would weigh more so they would be better right? that's essentially your argument and it makes no sense. you can't see that's exactly what most heavyweights do and yet you have no problem with it.

      also you can't see the difference between a linebacker who has to have mass in order to tackle people and who plays in 5 second bursts and a boxer who boxes for 36 minutes side to side, in and out, moving constantly? really? just because a body type like that is effective in football doens't mean its effective in boxing. who is pulev tackling? is pulev fighting in 5 second rounds? just terrible. if that body type was most effective for boxing wlad would be 300 pounds, ali would have been 250 pounds. once again just terrible on your part.

      ok he's in decent shape for the average joe but this is championship boxing. you need to be in better than decent shape to do championship boxing wouldn't you agree?
      The way you look translates to athletic ability, you truly believe that statement? So in your opinion Sly Stallone really could have been a boxing champion because he looks like one? Well, maybe a middleweight champ because he was only about 165 when he filmed Rocky. Wilder also looks like a great athlete so should he just go ahead and anoint himself heavyweight champ simply because he looks the part?

      To put it bluntly your argument is rather ridiculous. As far as you caring about fat blobs how would I possibly know what you would or wouldn't care about. And why would I even care?

      On your other points how many 6" 5" lightweights do you see? But I believe there are fat slob lightweights just not 6'5" ones. I believe that one would be real skinny. And when did I ever say if they weigh more they are better? You are just making 5hit up as you go along because I never said anything remotely close to that.

      We were also not talking about most heavyweights. Matter of fact other than comparing Pulev to Wlad I never mentioned another heavyweight. We were discussing one man his name is Kubrat Pulev. So once again you are making 5hit up as you go. But I will say this if you want to talk about other heavyweights I would agree with you. Because many of them are unfortunately fat cows.

      As far as Pulev is concerned he is surely not ripped like Wlad but I have never seen him with a gut or love handles. I have also seen him fight several times and he doesn't have big power. And because of that his fights usually go into the later rounds. With that said I have not seen him sucking wind or looking like he was slowing down all that much because he is out of shape. So to this point he looks as if he carriers his 250 pounds rather well. And that is what I believe indicates what kind of shape a fighter is in.

      So as you looking at Pulev's six pack for answers he has proved you wrong by fighting into the later rounds with no out of shape issues that I have seen. And if you have evidence that proves otherwise I am all for reading it. Other than that we are done. Have a good one!

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        #83
        Originally posted by drenlou
        Dont know much about pulev, does anyone really give this guy a shot?
        This is irrelevant. All we know is that he is the guy everyone claimed was being ducked by Wlad, for choosing to fight a undeserved mandatory.

        And here is fighting Pulev right after the ****ty mandatory. No fuss, no muss. People were clutching at straws there when he postponed the fight, just seeking out something to nail Wlad with.

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        • dan_cov
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          #84


          He fights with his chin that high in the air too.
          He has nothing but a jab not even a power jab, no variety, just the same point scoring jab. The fact this guys #2 tells you all need to know about the HW division.

          If Wlad had any killer instinct he'd bomb this guy out inside 5 rounds

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            #85
            Originally posted by Ravens Fan
            The way you look translates to athletic ability, you truly believe that statement? So in your opinion Sly Stallone really could have been a boxing champion because he looks like one? Well, maybe a middleweight champ because he was only about 165 when he filmed Rocky. Wilder also looks like a great athlete so should he just go ahead and anoint himself heavyweight champ simply because he looks the part?

            To put it bluntly your argument is rather ridiculous. As far as you caring about fat blobs how would I possibly know what you would or wouldn't care about. And why would I even care?

            On your other points how many 6" 5" lightweights do you see? But I believe there are fat slob lightweights just not 6'5" ones. I believe that one would be real skinny. And when did I ever say if they weigh more they are better? You are just making 5hit up as you go along because I never said anything remotely close to that.

            We were also not talking about most heavyweights. Matter of fact other than comparing Pulev to Wlad I never mentioned another heavyweight. We were discussing one man his name is Kubrat Pulev. So once again you are making 5hit up as you go. But I will say this if you want to talk about other heavyweights I would agree with you. Because many of them are unfortunately fat cows.

            As far as Pulev is concerned he is surely not ripped like Wlad but I have never seen him with a gut or love handles. I have also seen him fight several times and he doesn't have big power. And because of that his fights usually go into the later rounds. With that said I have not seen him sucking wind or looking like he was slowing down all that much because he is out of shape. So to this point he looks as if he carriers his 250 pounds rather well. And that is what I believe indicates what kind of shape a fighter is in.

            So as you looking at Pulev's six pack for answers he has proved you wrong by fighting into the later rounds with no out of shape issues that I have seen. And if you have evidence that proves otherwise I am all for reading it. Other than that we are done. Have a good one!
            no he couldn't. he's too muscular to be a good boxer. the same reason shannon briggs isn't a good boxer and can't throw punches for more than 10 seconds. i've actually studied fitness, nutrition, and sport science so maybe this is like trying to teach mayweather how to read. its just not possible. does this count as evidence? maybe its not as good as your i saw a fat man box into the later rounds once but it will have to do.

            pulev fought into the later rounds so what? shannon briggs just went 10 and won. who was he fighting is the question? when you fight wlad this is championship elite boxing. this isn't tony thompson or dimitrenko. pulev's body isn't in the best shape for him to get the most out of it. he's going to be carrying a lot of weight that will zap him in the later rounds, that will make him slower, that will make him less explosive. the point is he's not trying his best to win and i have no respect for a slob like him. and if he thinks carrying extra weight to match wlad is the best strategy he's wrong.

            why do you think wlad and vitali always score late knockouts? because their opponents are completely done by that time so they can start to take risks. sam peter was able to go the disatance and come on late against jameel mcline wat happened when he fought the klitschkos! what happened is getting hit wears your body down and getting hit while you are carrying extra weight wears you down even more on top of increasing your chances of getting hit. you ever heard the phrase "his fitness saved him from being ko'd there?" i know they don't say it often in the heavyweights but there's a reason they say that. because its true. pulev looks fine for the average joe though that's all that matters. average joe vs the heavyweight champ of the world! i'm pumped! i hope average joe wins and faces joe the plumber next!
            Last edited by daggum; 11-11-2014, 04:40 AM.

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              #86
              Originally posted by dan_cov


              He fights with his chin that high in the air too.
              He has nothing but a jab not even a power jab, no variety, just the same point scoring jab. The fact this guys #2 tells you all need to know about the HW division.

              If Wlad had any killer instinct he'd bomb this guy out inside 5 rounds

              well he's not really #2 heavy. that's a joke. look at his resume. tony thompson is his best win and he's #2? don't think so. povetkin obviously is ahead of him but so is takam the guy povetkin just ko'd. takam beat thompson even easier than pulev and also beat mike perez. i admire pulev's tony tubbs impression but besides that he's a waste.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Cupo303
                This is irrelevant. All we know is that he is the guy everyone claimed was being ducked by Wlad, for choosing to fight a undeserved mandatory.

                And here is fighting Pulev right after the ****ty mandatory. No fuss, no muss. People were clutching at straws there when he postponed the fight, just seeking out something to nail Wlad with.
                What kind of propaganda is this?

                "Everyone" said Wlad was ducking Pulev? Who is everyone like 3 people?
                Last edited by IronDanHamza; 11-11-2014, 04:48 AM.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  We kind of propaganda is this?

                  "Everyone" said Wlad was ducking Pulev? Who is everyone like 3 people?
                  yes everyone said wlad was ducking the guy that no one even knows lol. the problem was wlad lobbied the ibf to install leapai as the mandatory so he could have an easy fight. that was garbage. leapai didn't earn that shot. he didn't even fight an eliminator. he beat untested whats his face in a ten rounder. this is another easy fight against a fat guy who thinks he can out jab klitschko. he doesn't have the mobility to avoid wlad's jab. what a farce. wlad ducked chisora not this fool. chisora would have brought the fight to him and wlad would of had to go into clinch mode 24/7 in order to survive.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    no he couldn't. he's too muscular to be a good boxer. the same reason shannon briggs isn't a good boxer and can't throw punches for more than 10 seconds. i've actually studied fitness, nutrition, and sport science so maybe this is like trying to teach mayweather how to read. its just not possible. does this count as evidence? maybe its not as good as your i saw a fat man box into the later rounds once but it will have to do.

                    pulev fought into the later rounds so what? shannon briggs just went 10 and won. who was he fighting is the question? when you fight wlad this is championship elite boxing. this isn't tony thompson or dimitrenko. pulev's body isn't in the best shape for him to get the most out of it. he's going to be carrying a lot of weight that will zap him in the later rounds, that will make him slower, that will make him less explosive. the point is he's not trying his best to win and i have no respect for a slob like him. and if he thinks carrying extra weight to match wlad is the best strategy he's wrong.

                    why do you think wlad and vitali always score late knockouts? because their opponents are completely done by that time so they can start to take risks. sam peter was able to go the disatance and come on late against jameel mcline wat happened when he fought the klitschkos! what happened is getting hit wears your body down and getting hit while you are carrying extra weight wears you down even more on top of increasing your chances of getting hit. you ever heard the phrase "his fitness saved him from being ko'd there?" i know they don't say it often in the heavyweights but there's a reason they say that. because its true. pulev looks fine for the average joe though that's all that matters. average joe vs the heavyweight champ of the world! i'm pumped! i hope average joe wins and faces joe the plumber next!
                    On the contrary, Pulev's strength and stamina could actually turn the fight in his favour in the late rounds.
                    Wlad is very fit, but because of his ripped and muscular physique, he tends to fight in spurts and can look a little ragged if his opponents pressure him while he's trying to take a breather.
                    Pulev just keeps going and is one of those guys who seem to get stronger as the fight goes on.
                    He can throw right hands very accurately from long range, and while he isn't particularly heavy handed, he might not need to be to hurt Wlad if he catches him at the right time, late in the fight when he's getting tired.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Szef
                      After the Povetkin fiasco, Wladimir needs to make a statement. Unless he suddenly aged, he'll probably completely dominate and stop Pulev
                      Last time he was on HBO was the Povetkin fight. That **** was garbage. Lol I'm hoping for a gd fight though Saturday.

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