Amir Khan Master Thread

[AliBombaye]

Not really - He also knocked out Alvarado when he was undefeated

I don't care what the reason was, a guy who's coming off a 3 round destruction of Alvarado is better than a guy who's coming off an embarrassing 12-0 decision vs Khan where he wasn't even the slightest competitive.

According to your ******ed logic beating a 78 year old Ali would make his opponent at least a hall of famer then, gtfo, you've lost all credibility.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Not really - He also knocked out Alvarado when he was undefeated

I don't care what the reason was, a guy who's coming off a 3 round destruction of Alvarado is better than a guy who's coming off an embarrassing 12-0 decision vs Khan where he wasn't even the slightest competitive.

Here's another piece of information for you - Alvarado is ***ing awful too. Him vs Rios was the ultimate battle of the glorified club fighters. A ******ed poor man's Gatti-Ward. Bum versus bum and the less brain damaged bum who actually trained won the fight.

Alexander lost 12-0 to Khan because Khan is better than Alexander. What that has to do with who is better between Alexander and Rios, I don't know.

Your logic is all over the shop. You tried to argue that Frankie Gavin was a better opponent than Algieri. This Khan ducking has made you a bit loopy.

[Box-Office]

- If you look at my post I specifically excluded Maidana from that list, so that's not true.


- I have never said Gavin is better than Algieri - I said Khan would probably make more money vs him because it would be a UK fight

- I have always said organisation rankings were crap and I maintain that to Brook as well - if you disagree please show where I have said otherwise. The only ranking I go by are TRBR or Ring.

- But he clearly corrected that outcome in the rematch? I agree he didn't look good vs Diaz in the first fight. He clearly picked up on that in all of his subsequent fights after that. Also, it's not like Khan looked like a million dollars vs Diaz.

- Automatically top 4? You're having a laugh mate. He picked up a vacant belt vs Kaizer Mabuza who was hardly in the top 10 As of 2010 Judah wasn't a top 10 fighter in the divison and was only #8 in 2011. As I said, not top 5. Bradley, Peterson, Garcia, Morales, Alexander, Bradley, Khan, Matthysse were all ranked above him in 2011.

- I'm not sure why you bring up Frankie Gavin? Where have I bigged that feather-fisted fish face up anywhere? he's crap.

- Alexander was a world champion not long ago. Who did he beat at WW that made him anywhere near a top 5 contender? No one is who. He was ranked #9 or so when Khan fought him and it doesn't take a genius to see he's not very good.

- Being a featherfist in the pros is quite clearly a disadvantage. You can be good otherwise, but you need to be able to punch.



I said legit top 5 contender or someone who would actually have a chance against the top guys in the division. Judah most certainly wasn't that. He was 10 years past his prime when Khan fought him.

Did you just say Collazo was a top 10 welterweight? What have you been smoking? Haha.



As I said, the Diaz affair wasn't good. But he clearly did beat him in the rematch and proceeded to beat up some other Khan victims too.

What makes you say Paulie was shot to ****? Where have we seen proof of that before his fight with Porter? It's not like Khan fought a prime Malignaggi anyway, who even in his prime, wasn't anything special.

Not really. I'm calling it like I see it. Since Maidana, I don't think Khan has beaten a top contender. Even if you want to include Judah in that, that's still 4 years ago.

Brandon Rios would be Khan's best win for 4 years.

My bad.

Whose ranking are we talking when you say Judah not top 5?

Malignaggi was 33 and now everyone doesn't age the same he hasn't fought since, which shows he was on the verge of being done and that Porter KO stamped it. Even now he is looking for a EBU title fight.

Malignaggi went on to win a title at a second weight by stopping Senchenko (Brook's second best win) after losing to Khan. So, what do you mean Khan fought a shot Malignaggi? Not to mention when he fought Malignaggi he was supposedly "rejuvenated" due to the Juan Diaz win.

Ahaha no Alexander is way ahead of Brandon Rios. Rios is a bum, plain and simple, rich man's John Murray. Awfully limited as exposed by Richard Abril. He has 34 fights and one good win, which he did twice. Alvarado didn't even train properly for the third one from what I've heard, but since Brandon can punch that equates to being good right?

Devon is a 2 weight and unified at 140 lbs World Champion. Wins over some top names.

[LacedUp]

According to your ******ed logic beating a 78 year old Ali would make his opponent at least a hall of famer then, gtfo, you've lost all credibility.

What a ******ed comparison.

[Box-Office]

Here's another piece of information for you - Alvarado is ***ing awful too. Him vs Rios was the ultimate battle of the glorified club fighters. A ******ed poor man's Gatti-Ward. Bum versus bum and the less brain damaged bum who actually trained won the fight.

Alexander lost 12-0 to Khan because Khan is better than Alexander. What that has to do with who is better between Alexander and Rios, I don't know.

Your logic is all over the shop. You tried to argue that Frankie Gavin was a better opponent than Algieri. This Khan ducking has made you a bit loopy.

He is denying that now.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What a ******ed comparison.

Mate....your argument is basically.....Rios won his last fight and Alexander lost his hence Rios is better than Alexander. Regardless of who they were fighting or circumstance. Nothing. Rios won, Alexander lost. Rios>Alexander

I haven't heard anything that ******ed since someone said Frankie Gavin was a better opponent than Chris Algieri.

[LacedUp]

Here's another piece of information for you - Alvarado is ***ing awful too. Him vs Rios was the ultimate battle of the glorified club fighters. A ******ed poor man's Gatti-Ward. Bum versus bum and the less brain damaged bum who actually trained won the fight.

Alexander lost 12-0 to Khan because Khan is better than Alexander. What that has to do with who is better between Alexander and Rios, I don't know.

Your logic is all over the shop. You tried to argue that Frankie Gavin was a better opponent than Algieri. This Khan ducking has made you a bit loopy.

I'm not denying that. But you're not getting the gist of what I'm saying, which is Rios is a better opponent right now - coming off a destructive performance as opposed to someone who's failed miserably against fighters either ducking Brook or who Brook has beaten. Why the *** would he waste his time on Alexander?

Add to that, Alexander is crap and it's a guaranteed stinker.

I said Gavin would be a better opponent money wise - which he would be. You're putting words into my mouth that I never said to back up your logic.

[Tay Roc]

Cut or uncut?

I don't like a mouthful of cheese to be honest...

Definitely cut. Brook is a pretty boy.

[LacedUp]

My bad.

Malignaggi was 33 and now everyone doesn't age the same he hasn't fought since, which shows he was on the verge of being done and that Porter KO stamped it. Even now he is looking for a EBU title fight.

Malignaggi went on to win a title at a second weight by stopping Senchenko (Brook's second best win) after losing to Khan. So, what do you mean Khan fought a shot Malignaggi? Not to mention when he fought Malignaggi he was supposedly "rejuvenated" due to the Juan Diaz win.

Ahaha no Alexander is way ahead of Brandon Rios. Rios is a bum, plain and simple, rich man's John Murray. Awfully limited as exposed by Richard Abril. He has 34 fights and one good win, which he did twice. Alvarado didn't even train properly for the third one from what I've heard, but since Brandon can punch that equates to being good right?

Devon is a 2 weight and unified at 140 lbs World Champion. Wins over some top names.

OK so he was 33. Where's the proof he was shot? I'm just asking because he didn't show that in any of his previous fights.

I also didn't say Khan fought a shot malignaggi Why are you guys so insecure that you have to lie about what I said constantly? I said he didn't fight a prime Malignaggi which he didn't. Prime Malignaggi was the guy who fought Cotto or Hatton - where he lost both times. Malignaggi also said he felt great before Porter - who he fought after arguably taking broner's 0. So what's your point?

So what does Alexander do better than rios? I don't care what he was. I'm talking about right now. Alexander has lost to Porter and Khan and his best win for years is Lee Purdy. Wupti freaking do.

Once again, you are talking about things that happened 5 years ago. I'm talking about today. And in which world is picking Devon Alexander RIGHT NOW better than picking Brandon Rios? Not in this world.

He is denying that now.

No, I just never said it.

Mate....your argument is basically.....Rios won his last fight and Alexander lost his hence Rios is better than Alexander. Regardless of who they were fighting or circumstance. Nothing. Rios won, Alexander lost. Rios>Alexander

I haven't heard anything that ******ed since someone said Frankie Gavin was a better opponent than Chris Algieri.

No, not only that. Rios has been on a better run than Alexander for a while. He's been in a couple of "fights of the year" candidates and fought Manny Pacquiao. Alexander has beaten Purdy, 100 year old Bailey and Soto Karass whilst losing to two guys Brook either beat or has been ducked by. Rios actually comes to fight, can punch and take a punch. He'll bring it no matter what - Alexander can't do anything but have his feet planted in cement and squeak like a girl every time he throws a jab.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I'm not denying that. But you're not getting the gist of what I'm saying, which is Rios is a better opponent right now - coming off a destructive performance as opposed to someone who's failed miserably against fighters either ducking Brook or who Brook has beaten. Why the *** would he waste his time on Alexander?

Add to that, Alexander is crap and it's a guaranteed stinker.

I said Gavin would be a better opponent money wise - which he would be. You're putting words into my mouth that I never said to back up your logic.

Ok well I agree there's no point in Brook fighting Alexander right now. That's obvious.

I've already said, commercially the Rios fight makes perfect sense for Brook. Exciting style, decent Mexican fanbase, will probably make Brook look good. So yes agreed....obviously Rios is a better choice of opponent for those reasons.

But he's not a better fighter than Devon Alexander. I don't even think he's better than Chris Algieri. He's more well known and commercially better - that's it.

Frankie Gavin and "bringing money" should never really be used in the same sentence. That's ludicrous. Khan will probably get in the region of $1-2million for his next fight.