If Al Haymon is so bad.....

[Xi_]

Bad for boxing not bad for boxers. To mirror the thoughts of the post above he makes it easy for fighters to take bull**** fights and make good money, thus restricting them from taking real match ups. Really the only reason I like Canelo, he seems to be one of the few who actually want to make boxing history, maybe Thurman too but until now his words speak louder than his actions.

oh so was brook a soft touch for porter? what about andrade for charlo? alexander for khan? matthysse for garcia. TR gives just as many soft touches for their fighters Haymon. TR's best fighter is fighting a damn ESPN reject for crying out loud. lol@soft touches.

[Beercules]

What a horrible thread. Read the first sentence: get big money for easy fights


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You're a bum OP

[Xi_]

Haymon is not a promoter. He's an advisor/manager. It's his job to do what's in the best interest of the fighter and to make as much money as possible for the fighter. A promoters's job is to make as much money as possible for himself (not the fighter), which may or may not coincide with what's best for the fighter.

A manager doing a good job getting the biggest paydays for the lowest risk possible for their fighter. Why would the average fight fan be cheering for that?

So fan's are mad at haymon for doing his job? are you saying haymon fighters fight more bums than any other stable?

[Xi_]

What a horrible thread. Read the first sentence: get big money for easy fights


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You're a bum OP

**** contribution to the thread from an even ****tier poster......and since you're one of pacquiao's biggest ****blowers, please explain pacquiao's decision to fight that espn reject? pacquiao's not signed to al haymon, what's his excuse?

[Rocky Rode]

soft touches? every manager/promoter does that and he isn't doing it on any level worse than TR or any other promotional company......what's your point?

I specifically said too many. Haymon takes it too far.

Just look at the careers of Gary Russel Jr and Andre Berto.

[hhs661]

He ain't bad. Just at times he's made some crap fights. I try and keep that in mind. Just as I did when Khan was supposed to go through Danny with ease before facing Floyd. Or how Ruslan was this monster who would dismantle an unknown to 99% of the boxing fans in Algieri. These were all supposed to be showcase fights that backfired. Easily forgotten because, well, the name Haymon is connected to a few.

I guess we can blame Haymon for JMM vs Ramos, Ruslan vs Castillo or Cotto vs Jennings while we're at it

[Beercules]

OP

Is a BUM

[ea22]

oh so was brook a soft touch for porter? what about andrade for charlo? alexander for khan? matthysse for garcia. TR gives just as many soft touches for their fighters Haymon. TR's best fighter is fighting a damn ESPN reject for crying out loud. lol@soft touches.

One of those fights was last year, and you are listing three competitive matches for his big fighters one year out of a LOADED roster. I care little for taking sides, I will not vouch for Pac v. Algieri either, but Haymon is definitely bad for boxing, Garcia vs. Salka is all that needs to be said. His "business" model is not feasible long term, just look how terrible Showtime has been for most of the year, they basically blew most of their budget on crap fights.

[Xi_]

I specifically said too many. Haymon takes it too far.

Just look at the careers of Gary Russel Jr and Andre Berto.

maybe gary russell but andre berto has fought good/decent opposition(ortiz, zavack, guerrero, quintana, soto karass, collozo).......not all Haymon fighter's are fighting bums. i can go through each stable and pick out protected fighters. Haymon isn't doing it any more than these other promoters/managers.

[creekrat77]

Haymon is not a promoter. He's an advisor/manager. It's his job to do what's in the best interest of the fighter and to make as much money as possible for the fighter. A promoters's job is to make as much money as possible for himself (not the fighter), which may or may not coincide with what's best for the fighter.

A manager doing a good job is getting the biggest paydays for the lowest risk possible for their fighter. Why would the average fight fan be cheering for that?

Bull****. The popular belief that Al Haymon pursues the biggest pay days for his fighters has proven time and time again not to be true. I could go on detailing a long diatribe of what Haymon does but at this point most of us know what he does. And it can be explained very simply..........

Al Haymon is in the business to get his fighters EASY money

Easy Fights = Easy Money


Whether you want to call it cherry picking, protecting his fighters, or flat out blasphemy, it's Al Haymon that embodies this managing style

If you know boxing, who people are signed with along with which top guys are fighting easy fights as opposed to competitive fights, then this crap should be fairly obvious to you.