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  • Originally posted by Killer_of_Sheep View Post
    I don't have an agenda against Floyd, really. I just think Manny Pacquiao has a better resume, slighty better at that.

    Gatti's inclusion in the hall of fame was mostly because he was such a beloved figure in his time, involved in some of the greatest wars and battles the sport has ever seen, even in defeat. But he was never a special talent, he was a huge lightweight with KO power but he was never a dominant force in the division or in any division he ever fought really.

    I love Arturo Gatti, but the discussion here is about who has the better record and legacy. I don't think beating Gatti is that big achievement, really.
    Fair enough, you put ledwaba as world class....why not put jesus chavez, carlos hernandez, gregorio vargas,zab judah,sharmba mitchell,angel manfredy, robert guerrero amongst others under floyds "world class" category? I mean they were all world champions wernt they?

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    • Originally posted by drenlou View Post
      Fair enough, you put ledwaba as world class....why not put jesus chavez, carlos hernandez, gregorio vargas,zab judah,sharmba mitchell,angel manfredy, robert guerrero amongst others under floyds "world class" category? I mean they were all world champions wernt they?
      jesus chavez, carlos hernandez, vargas, mitchell, judah weren't world champs when floyd beat them. judah coming off a loss, mitchell was KO'ed not too long ago before floyd fought him, etc.

      ledwaba was ranked #2 at 122, a rising star in the division, was the IBF world champion with several successful defenses. pac beat ledwaba on 2 weeks short notice and was the HUGE underdog. therefore that win is far more significant than what you listed.

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      • Originally posted by divine hammer View Post
        ok so you have nothing then.

        Again, all floyd has is his undefeated record. That's the sad fact for you floyd fan punks.
        ye hypocrite!!!! Why dost thou forceth me to thinkest as thou? Why cant my ye be ye and my nay be nay????? Lol whom art thou that i have to explain all things to you? Only for you to refute it with a page full of emotions and then my day will be ruined. Ive been there far too many times so now adays i leave it at: Pac is great but floyd is higher on my list. Now take your crazy azz somewhere and go pray

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        • Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post
          jesus chavez, carlos hernandez, vargas, mitchell, judah weren't world champs when floyd beat them. judah coming off a loss, mitchell was KO'ed not too long ago before floyd fought him.

          ledwaba was ranked #2 at 122, a rising star in the division, was the IBF world champion with several successful defenses. pac beat ledwaba on 2 weeks short notice and was the HUGE underdog. therefore that win is far more significant than what you listed.
          Who cares, they were world class contenders when floyd beat them, and they became world champions down the line.. bullshiat no one even knew who the *** pac or ledwaba was...for the majority of people who ordered the de la hoya/castillejo ppv , it was the first time people got a chance to see both fighters...so dont give me that shiat, you probably didnt even follow boxing back in 2001. And gregorio vargas was a champ at a lower weight.

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          • Originally posted by drenlou View Post
            Who cares, they were world class contenders when floyd beat them, and they became world champions down the line.. bullshiat no one even knew who the *** pac or ledwaba was...for the majority of people who ordered the de la hoya/castillejo ppv , it was the first time people got a chance to see both fighters...so dont give me that shiat, you probably didnt even follow boxing back in 2001.
            beating ledwaba >>>>> what you listed

            just because people didn't know who they were doesn't mean they were poop or it makes the win less significant. again ledwaba was close to being at the top of 122 before pac stopped him.

            it was a big win and HUGE upset. ledwaba was considered a very good slick world class boxer and he was a world champion with only one loss (very early in his career).

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            • Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post
              ok so you have nothing then.

              again, all floyd has is his undefeated record. that's the sad fact for you floyd fan punks.
              Floyds undefeated record and pacs 8 division world titles wont mean **** if they dont fight eachother.

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              • Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post
                beating ledwaba >>>>> what you listed

                just because people didn't know who they were doesn't mean they were poop or it makes the win less significant. again ledwaba was close to being at the top of 122 before pac stopped him.

                it was a big win and HUGE upset. ledwaba was considered a very good slick world class boxer and he was a world champion with only one loss (very early in his career).

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                • Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post
                  beating ledwaba >>>>> what you listed

                  just because people didn't know who they were doesn't mean they were poop or it makes the win less significant. again ledwaba was close to being at the top of 122 before pac stopped him.

                  it was a big win and HUGE upset. ledwaba was considered a very good slick world class boxer and he was a world champion with only one loss (very early in his career).
                  please..... get out of here with that bs. name one fighter that ledwaba beat that made him such a great win? and please dont mention michael carbajals brother either.

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                  • 8 time division champ, Just look at his earlier fights, didnt take any breaks, no vacations to let the division cool down, he fought the names in his weight class, moved up to where the names were, against all odds, against heavier, stronger fighters, just as fast, not just putting up wins, but espectacular performances.

                    Pacquiao is going in the record books as one of the greatest in our era, thats why i dont feel they should compare him with FLoyd, he's ordinary in comparison, has not thrown caution to the wind the same way two other fighters have.

                    Hopkins is doing it, Pacquiao is doing it. The two have losses, but they have the resume's, all dared to be great. Both are in the record books.

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                    • Originally posted by ElMeroChingon View Post
                      8 time division champ, Just look at his earlier fights, didnt take any breaks, no vacations to let the division cool down, he fought the names in his weight class, moved up to where the names were, against all odds, against heavier, stronger fighters, just as fast, not just putting up wins, but espectacular performances.

                      Pacquiao is going in the record books as one of the greatest in our era, thats why i dont feel they should compare him with FLoyd, he's ordinary in comparison, has not thrown caution to the wind the same way two other fighters have.

                      Hopkins is doing it, Pacquiao is doing it. The two have losses, but they have the resume's, all dared to be great. Both are in the record books.
                      The best cant EVER sleep on the job Manny has 3 times , big fail right there .

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