Is Froch an ATG

[Dr Rumack]

Light heavy is one of the deepest divisions in history. It has a deep talent pool and is filled with some of the greatest fighters to even lace them up. Needless to say Froch wouldn't compare favorably

That's my point. Those are the terms on which ATG status should be considered.

[Weebler I]

Hell no!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He never moved up and was never even the best in his own damn weight class....He will not even be a 1st ballot Hall of famer

Be quiet Larry.

Abraham
Bute
Dirrell
Groves
Johnson
Kessler
Pascal
Reid
Taylor

and Froch isn't finished, there is more to come.

For me he will always be an ATG. But It's hard to definte what the hell that is anyway. In SMW he's one of the best ever, top 2 or 3, so that's enough for me.

Yeah, it's more than a bit ambiguous.

[Clark81]

He isn't actually that good.

If he had average stamina and an average chin he'd have many losses.

[Weebler I]

He isn't actually that good.

If he had average stamina and an average chin he'd have many losses.

Dumb logic, if you take any fighters attributes away they'd have more losses.

Losses don't define a fighter anyway, it's the wins. Many of the best fighters have multiple losses.

[gmc_rfc_06]

He isn't actually that good.

If he had average stamina and an average chin he'd have many losses.

Yeah, and if Floyd Mayweather was slow and had average skills he'd have many losses....

What a silly way to look at something. How many great fighters would there be if you took away their strengths?

Carl is first ballot HOF.

[Clark81]

His technique is poor though, he's also slow and has poor balance - he's not a well co-ordinated athlete, just a tough mofo with a great engine, great belief and chin

[-PBP-]

No. Not to knock his career achievements but he just doesn't rise to that level of greatness. Which is not an insult.

[Public_Enemy]

Froch is a definite hall of famer. There's no way he's an ATG though and that's ok. He's an excellent fighter and will be known as a guy who fought the best fighters possible.

[shade darkar]

is he fcuk.

[Hougigo]

He's a Hall of Famer at most