Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: If I Was 28, I Would've KO'd Mayweather!

[HanzGruber]

Floydie had his chance at cotto at 147. Oh wait he retired. "I'm gonna retire from boxing. Boxings not gonna retire me."

Was cotto still with arum? Cause arum didn't let Floyd fight oscar or cotto

[therealpugilist]

Leonard made two offers to Pryor, the second one was accepted and everything was contingent like always to Leonard winning his next fight and then the detached retina incident put an end to the hopes of that superfight. Duran also made an offer to Pryor and Pryor's lawyer advised against it because Pryor was in the process of renewing his conract,

so you ignore Nunn and McCallum...im sure he made them no offers right

he fought Norris in '91...147-160 was very deep when he made a comeback in 1987 til he retired after the Norris fight(Julian Jackson, Kalambay, Roldan, Herol Graham, nunn, McCallum, etc....there were better fights out there than fight an old Duran, Donny Lalonde for a made up title, etc.
Leonard "fought everyone" is a myth.....no fighter has

[Ham Porter]

I remember Floyd calling out Oscar back then and arum was having none of it.

What does calling someone out mean? Mayweather called out Winky Wright and then lost his bottle when he found out Winky was actually serious about fighting him.

IMHO Floyd is the best lightweight ever

Fl*mos: the eternal source of amusement.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Oscar? Lol I know u are an Oscar fan but he's not really an example u should be touting. He fought a lot of good fighters and he lost to most of them. And winky and forest would certainly have been legacy fights on his resume.

No doubt forest and winky were good fights, but they aren't comparable to Tito or Shane..

If oscar never fought Shane or Tito, and instead fought forest and winky, tons of people would be pissed and call him a ducker, etc.

Besides all this is besides the point,, when oscar was the face of boxing he fought everyone from Chavez to Hopkins and everyone inbetween that was a big name,, Floyd has never done that

[richardt]

so you ignore Nunn and McCallum...im sure he made them no offers right

he fought Norris in '91...147-160 was very deep when he made a comeback in 1987 til he retired after the Norris fight(Julian Jackson, Kalambay, Roldan, Herol Graham, nunn, McCallum, etc....there were better fights out there than fight an old Duran, Donny Lalonde for a made up title, etc.
Leonard "fought everyone" is a myth.....no fighter has

First of all, I haven't ignored anything. I pointed to a statement you made and commented on that, nothing more. You mentioned Pryor and I elaborated on that so you would know what happened around that potential superfight and then you go off the tangent about Nunn and McCallum.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

So Forrest and Wright were not legacy fights but the corpse of Yori Boy Campas, Patrick Carpentier and Mayorga were ?
Leonard fought terry Norris in '91 and from 1987 to 91 he fought 5 times....Nunn and McCallum(champion since 1984) were champions during that time so there is no excuse


you cant fight everyone...they didn't...Floyd didn't so what

Since Mayweather has been the face of boxing he has participated in 2 of the biggest fights ever(Canelo and DLH)...EVER....Mayweather has won all his big fights unlike ODLH and is world champion at 147 and 154 at the same time defending both....none of them did that


No harm done all of them are great but don't try to minimize things he has done in his career when he has done things none of them have...4 lineal titles, has defeated more world champions than all of them, whatever the case your agenda wont change things that actually did happen.

Jesus, people are dense on here.... Please tell me when I said any I those are legacy fights..

Your totally missing the point so I'm gonna try and break it down for you..

Fighters that are considered the FACE of boxing, #1 box office draw, have always fought all their contemporary rivals, fighters that they are forever linked to
Ali-Frazier, foreman
Oscar-Tito, Shane
Leonard-hearns, Benitez
Louis-schmelling

Floyd hasn't done those type fights

[therealpugilist]

Jesus, people are dense on here.... Please tell me when I said any I those are legacy fights..

Your totally missing the point so I'm gonna try and break it down for you..

Fighters that are considered the FACE of boxing, #1 box office draw, have always fought all their contemporary rivals, fighters that they are forever linked to
Ali-Frazier, foreman
Oscar-Tito, Shane
Leonard-hearns, Benitez
Louis-schmelling

Floyd hasn't done those type fights

simple question how was Wright not a legacy fight when he was the best 154 pounder of the time and beat SSM for the title...the fight was a natural and a legacy fight...Forrest to a lesser degree but still better than some of the guys he fought past the year 2000


again....no fighter has fought everyone....Sugar Ray Robinson was the face of boxing but did he fight Charley Burley who was a top ten middleweight and welterweight for most of the 40's? or Aaron Wade, Cocoa Kid, or any of the black muderers row? were they not contemporary rivals?

Boxing isn't perfect but the problem with some people on this forum is they spend too much time saying a fighter didn't do this or that, with out even recognizing the things they have done.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

simple question how was Wright not a legacy fight when he was the best 154 pounder of the time and beat SSM for the title...the fight was a natural and a legacy fight...Forrest to a lesser degree but still better than some of the guys he fought past the year 2000


again....no fighter has fought everyone....Sugar Ray Robinson was the face of boxing but did he fight Charley Burley who was a top ten middleweight and welterweight for most of the 40's? or Aaron Wade, Cocoa Kid, or any of the black muderers row? were they not contemporary rivals?

Boxing isn't perfect but the problem with some people on this forum is they spend too much time saying a fighter didn't do this or that, with out even recognizing the things they have done.

Because winky wasn't someone that was brought up with oscar during the 90s like Shane and Tito were.. Winky was a nobody when oscar, Shane, and Tito were undefeated young champs in their prime
Not saying it wouldn't be a good fight but in terms of legacy it doesn't hurt it because that fight never happened..
Moorer-Lennox
Pernell-camacho
Lots of fights don't get made

[-Antonio-]

Oscar could have decisioned Floyd in his prime. A KO I just dont see it. Oscar had some success parrying Floyd's punches and kind of just ran out of gas. In his prime he was quicker and had more energy. It would have been a lot closer that's for sure.

[therealpugilist]

Because winky wasn't someone that was brought up with oscar during the 90s like Shane and Tito were.. Winky was a nobody when oscar, Shane, and Tito were undefeated young champs in their prime
Not saying it wouldn't be a good fight but in terms of legacy it doesn't hurt it because that fight never happened..
Moorer-Lennox
Pernell-camacho
Lots of fights don't get made

exactly

a legacy is about what you accomplished, not people you didn't fight

we can pick apart any fighters resume or say they didn't fight this person or that, but the truth its not possible for a fighter to fight all the good fights.

Also it should not take away from what they have done


Mayweather-Corrales was huge, as was Mayweather-Hatton both were undefeated, the DLH fight was huge even though both were past prime


To say a fighter who has accomplished so much has not had legacy fights is pretty ignorant.

Mayweather not fighting Pacquaio, or Tszyu shouldn't take way from who Floyd did beat

Robinson not fighting Burley, Holman Williams, Cocoa Kid, Bert Lytell didn't take from his

Nor did the color barrier take away from Jack Dempsey's