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  • SeekDaGreat
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    #61
    Originally posted by PBP
    You don't have to dismantle to impress.

    Mosley looked sensational against De La Hoya after jumping weight classes.

    Tito was a wrecking ball that was a bad example. We knew he had "it" immediately.

    You can make an argument that Oscar lost to Whitaker but he looked like he belonged unlike Canelos 12-0 loss to Mayweayher.


    It's a perfectly fair criticism. His record is pretty cool but he's getting a lot of these razor thin decisions.
    How many people were impressive against Mayweather? 2? Possibly 3?

    It's an unreasonable criticism. It's not like Floyd hurt him, stopped him, or did anything un-Floyd like against him. He got severely outboxed by the best technical boxer on the planet. It's not something that should be pigeon held against him, because he's not the only one it has happened to when fighting Mayweather.

    It's not like he was outclassed by a lesser fighter. It's not like he pulled a Khan, and got sparked out as a heavy favorite. Dude was an underdog going into the fight and lost. It happens all the time.

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    • PAC-BOY
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      #62
      Originally posted by LinealChampion
      At glance..
      He has a great resume to be so young.

      Wins over
      Shane Mosley
      Eris Lara
      Austin Trout
      Angulo
      And got a draw on one score card against Floyd Mayweather


      On the other hand

      All of his wins are generally tainted

      Mosley was old
      Some believe he lost against Trout, LARA
      Angulo, not sure

      How do you rank his resume?
      Its pretty good for an up and comer.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #63
        He has a very solid resume at his age. Hall of Fame? No. Pound for pound? Yeah, I could see that.

        I thought the Trout fight was much closer than the cards but it was a good, tough win. These are the kind of wins that won't jump out years from now (because a guy like Trout isn't HOF caliber) but are underrated. Like when Manny Pacquiao beat Ledwaba and Bradley. Mayweather beating a Chavez or Jones stopping Malinga. The Lara win is similar but Cotto will tell the tale. It's a winnable fight and would be a huge boon to his resume.

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        • Reginald Ledoux
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          #64
          Lara Beat canelo.


          Punching air doesn't win fights

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            #65
            Originally posted by SeekDaGreat
            How many people were impressive against Mayweather? 2? Possibly 3?

            It's an unreasonable criticism. It's not like Floyd hurt him, stopped him, or did anything un-Floyd like against him. He got severely outboxed by the best technical boxer on the planet. It's not something that should be pigeon held against him, because he's not the only one it has happened to when fighting Mayweather.

            It's not like he was outclassed by a lesser fighter. It's not like he pulled a Khan, and got sparked out as a heavy favorite. Dude was an underdog going into the fight and lost. It happens all the time.
            It's the biggest fight of his career. Those are the moments that count the most.

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            • KingTito
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              #66
              I was quite critical, but he started so damn young. They really wanted to build him. He's been on a nice run and has made it clear he wants the best. I've become quite a big fan after not being so much of one in the past. I root for the guy.

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                #67
                Originally posted by PBP
                It's the biggest fight of his career. Those are the moments that count the most.
                You're absolutely right, it was a bad look. It certainly didnt help his stock. But for people to pigeon hold him to that one fight, is naive. Imo.

                He blew his fast track to greatness, but imo - he's going to get there anyway. He's just going to have to work a little harder at it. And the way he went to the body in the Lara fight, shows me that he did learn how to deal with a boxer who is slicker than him. Atleast the best he can.
                Last edited by SeekDaGreat; 10-08-2014, 09:14 PM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by PBP
                  You don't have to dismantle to impress.

                  Mosley looked sensational against De La Hoya after jumping weight classes.

                  Tito was a wrecking ball that was a bad example. We knew he had "it" immediately.

                  You can make an argument that Oscar lost to Whitaker but he looked like he belonged unlike Canelos 12-0 loss to Mayweayher.


                  It's a perfectly fair criticism. His record is pretty cool but he's getting a lot of these razor thin decisions.

                  Tito didn't dominate in his biggest fights vs Vargas, oscar, Hopkins..

                  Tito's dominant wins over joppy, Reid, campos are not the caliber of Floyd-corrales or manny/Barrera

                  Performances like those fights are nearly impossible and it's a testament to the greatness of Floyd and manny..
                  Very few guys in history have scored a complete dominant win over another top p4p guy at his peak.. I don't think it's a deal breaker if canelo never gets a win like that..

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by SeekDaGreat
                    You're absolutely right, it was a bad look. It certainly didnt help his stock. But for people to pigeon hold him to that one fight, is naive. Imo.

                    He blew his fast track to greatness, but imo - he's going to get there anyway. He's just going to have to work a little harder at it. And the way he went to the body in the Lara fight, shows me that he did learn how to deal with a boxer who is slicker than him. Atleast the best he can.
                    A win over Cotto and GGG would erase that.

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                    • JJRod
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by SeekDaGreat
                      How many people were impressive against Mayweather? 2? Possibly 3?

                      It's an unreasonable criticism. It's not like Floyd hurt him, stopped him, or did anything un-Floyd like against him. He got severely outboxed by the best technical boxer on the planet. It's not something that should be pigeon held against him, because he's not the only one it has happened to when fighting Mayweather.

                      It's not like he was outclassed by a lesser fighter. It's not like he pulled a Khan, and got sparked out as a heavy favorite. Dude was an underdog going into the fight and lost. It happens all the time.
                      And that is what people fail to realize about Nelo.
                      They call him a hyped up C class fighter, who was exposed by Mayweather. But they don't see that hyped up C class fighters often get beaten badly by C class level fighters, not A+ fighters.

                      Just like
                      Berto lost to Ortiz
                      Senchenko lost to Malinaggi.
                      Wilfredo Vasquez Jr. was exposed by an old Jorge Arce.
                      Lemieux was exposed by Rubio
                      Mike Jones was exposed by Soto-Karass and finished off by Bailey.
                      Khan was exposed by Prescott.
                      Kirkland was exposed by Ishida
                      Angulo was exposed by Cintron.

                      If Canelo was all hype he would have lost to Alfonso Gomez, Kermit Cintron, or an old Shane Mosley, not to Mayweather.
                      Last edited by JJRod; 10-08-2014, 09:21 PM.

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