Why is Joe Louis Rated so Highly?

[LacedUp]

It was TheGreatA, he did a Wlad one as well.

God the evolution of heavyweight boxing...

Pouring jab, no right hands, no body shots, hardly any hooks.

But they're SO much better.

[Weltschmerz]

It was TheGreatA, he did a Wlad one as well.

What exactly would the point of these videos be? Vitali hammered Sam Peter in style, no matter how you twist and turn it. And he would absolutely maul Joe Louis, whether the video is grainy or HD.

[StefanTosic]

Walcott fought like a dumbass, btw. Standing in front of him with his hands down.

Yeah that's why James Toney studied Charles and Walcott so much #sarcasm
Look I have no time to fight with people with no facts to give, just like you, so I will explain it to you just once: Walcott defense was about the distance and he controled it with his feet like MANY fighters of his era. If you want to stay inside the whole night of course you should keep your hands up, but if you are a master at controlling the distance you are not obligated to keep them high.
Let me give you two other examples: I mentioned James Toney, to me he's in top 3 defensive boxers ever, the other two are Locche and Whitaker even though they did the things which could make you say that "they fight like some dumbasses". They often used to circle to the side of power hand of their opponents, instead of circling outside of their opponent's front foot, and yet they are considered as supreme defense masters...

[Weltschmerz]

Yeah that's why James Toney studied Charles and Walcott so much #sarcasm
Look I have no time to fight with people with no facts to give, just like you, so I will explain it to you just once: Walcott defense was about the distance and he controled it with his feet like MANY fighters of his era. If you want to stay inside the whole night of course you should keep your hands up, but if you are a master at controlling the distance you are not obligated to keep them high.
Let me give you two other examples: I mentioned James Toney, to me he's in top 3 defensive boxers ever, the other two are Locche and Whitaker even though they did the things which could make you say that "they fight like some dumbasses". They often used to circle to the side of power hand of their opponents, instead of circling outside of their opponent's front foot, and yet they are considered as supreme defense masters...

Yet he got KTFO... seems his technique didn't work, not even against a stationary fighter like Louis.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Except that it never happens to prime Vlad, he would find himself in a big, nice, warm bear hug, and Vlad would use his 45 lbs weight advantage to push little Joe down and drain his energy.

Vlad would massacre Joe Louis and KO him badly. Joe Louis was a very stationary fighter, he didn't move around well and was very hittable. Vlad would probably rock him badly with his very first 1-2.

Louis was knocked out by little Max Schmeling, ffs.

Wlad may be effective using the clinch like he did vs Povetkin, but it would be his downfall as Louis would figure this out after a few rounds and would time wlad as he clinched and would drop bombs in combination that a clinching wlad would never see coming..

Joe Louis was one of the best punchers ever, especially in combination, and he would would fake going inside, wlad would bite and start to clinch, Louis would take half a step back and to the side and open up a combo on a vulnerable clinching wlad..

[Elroy1]

And you'd lose your money in the process.

Instead of your tongue in cheek replies have you actually thought about it reasonably though?

You KNOW that Ross was a very tough and very strong guy, if nothing else!

When did Walcott ever beat someone of Ross's calibre?

We know that PRimo was shaky chinned and not hard to hit, when did he ever survive anybody as built and durable as Ross?

And of the few big boxers that Louis beat, were any of them really better than Ross? No, not really. Not at all. Baer was shockingly bad. Primo was a joke, and Simon

Come on man, give it up.

These boxers your trying to promote are indefensible in light of common sense.

[Elroy1]

Wlad may be effective using the clinch like he did vs Povetkin, but it would be his downfall as Louis would figure this out after a few rounds and would time wlad as he clinched and would drop bombs in combination that a clinching wlad would never see coming..

Joe Louis was one of the best punchers ever, especially in combination, and he would would fake going inside, wlad would bite and start to clinch, Louis would take half a step back and to the side and open up a combo on a vulnerable clinching wlad..

2 mistakes..

Joe is so lacking in length and speed and slickness and strength that Wladimir would be able to keep him at bay as long as he liked. He did not have the skills to close the gap or the strength/durability to bull his way in like Povetkin. In the event Louis could close the gap, and found himself in a Wlad hold, he would be chucked across the ring like a child.

Joe Louis would be the smallest and weakest opponent Wladimir has ever faced in 65 fights! Fact!

Your 2nd ridiculous statement was that Louis was one of then hardest punchers ever.

How is it physically possible that a 205lb guy can hit harder than a 250lb fighter with much better training to hit hard and sharp than his predecessor? It isn't, simply!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

2 mistakes..

Joe is so lacking in length and speed and slickness and strength that Wladimir would be able to keep him at bay as long as he liked. He did not have the skills to close the gap or the strength/durability to bull his way in like Povetkin. In the event Louis could close the gap, and found himself in a Wlad hold, he would be chucked across the ring like a child.

Joe Louis would be the smallest and weakest opponent Wladimir has ever faced in 65 fights! Fact!

Your 2nd ridiculous statement was that Louis was one of then hardest punchers ever.

How is it physically possible that a 205lb guy can hit harder than a 250lb fighter with much better training to hit hard and sharp than his predecessor? It isn't, simply!

1. Joe Louis would do what carrie sanders did,, use quick hands and combos.. Louis may not stop wlad early like sanders did but he would def do damage to wlad..
I think it's a tough fight to call because wlad is so much bigger and is skilled with the jab, but he does have mechanical flaws and Louis could exploit it

2. Never said Louis was one of the hardest punchers, but that he was one of the best punchers, in terms of timing, combinations, technique much like how Marquez is a great puncher but not consider a power puncher per se

[Daddy T]

Louis against the wlad of a few years ago is a clear and easy win for Louis. But against the current wlad I think he'd have a tough time simply due to the fact that wlad is so much bigger and is now very adept at stunting and spoiling smaller men. I'd still favor louis but with no great confidence.

[Elroy1]

Yeah that's why James Toney studied Charles and Walcott so much #sarcasm
Look I have no time to fight with people with no facts to give, just like you, so I will explain it to you just once: Walcott defense was about the distance and he controled it with his feet like MANY fighters of his era. If you want to stay inside the whole night of course you should keep your hands up, but if you are a master at controlling the distance you are not obligated to keep them high.
Let me give you two other examples: I mentioned James Toney, to me he's in top 3 defensive boxers ever, the other two are Locche and Whitaker even though they did the things which could make you say that "they fight like some dumbasses". They often used to circle to the side of power hand of their opponents, instead of circling outside of their opponent's front foot, and yet they are considered as supreme defense masters...

That's just the point Stefan.

Guys like Toney, Byrd etc, took from Walcott and Charles etc, used their strengths, built on it and made themselves better than what came before. That's how it always works!