Why is Joe Louis Rated so Highly?

[Tom Cruise]

This guy^^^

What a ****in idiot.

So you pick a much MORE bummy opponent against an even more primer Louis which STILL looks like rubbish?

Leave you alone and you'll destroy your own argument.

Louis might do good in ammy boxing today but Primo.. the only place for him is the circus!

I dont expect you to understand this but I posted that video to show how Louis would deal with someone who fought a similar way to Wlad.

He would draw the lead jab, slip it/parry it/ counter it. He'd use effective hand placement to neutralise any attempts to clinch him. He'd close the distance fast without smothering his work (a concept completely alien to modern day HW's). Eventually he would land, and being that he was probably the most dynamic explosive puncher of all time, he would probably knock Wladimir spark out.


If anything i cant think of a better style match up for Louis than Wlad

[Elroy1]

I dont expect you to understand this but I posted that video to show how Louis would deal with someone who fought a similar way to Wlad.

He would draw the lead jab, slip it/parry it/ counter it. He'd use effective hand placement to neutralise any attempts to clinch him. He'd close the distance fast without smothering his work (a concept completely alien to modern day HW's). Eventually he would land, and being that he was probably the most dynamic explosive puncher of all time, he would probably knock Wladimir spark out.


If anything i cant think of a better style match up for Louis than Wlad

You think Wladimir is stylistically similar to Carnera now?

There is one similarity. They are approximate in height and weight. That is where the similarities exactly end.

The QUALITY of their size is even completely different. Carnera was acromegalic. Wladimir is a naturally big guy who has muscled right up. Carnera barely trained. Wladimir is an ultra athlete.

Now we can move on to skills. Carnera had almost exactly no skills whatsoever, he was just a plodder, like a smallert, less skilled version of Valuev. Wladimir is the most skilled technical giant of all time.

Stylistically Primo's style was to plod forward and try to hit his opponent. Wladimir's style has been described as "complete stylistic shutdown of the opponent". In other words no matter what the opponent tried to do, he has an answer for everything. That's why he is virtually invincible now.

Primo had a slow, sloppy jab. Wladimir has the best jab of all time by far.

Louis is a 200 lb plodder. a style which today is acceptable for a 240lber only.

At 200lb it is basically impossible to enter the HW division but at the very least one would need to be more like Chris Byrd.

Primo Carnera

Your post was not worth a single drop of piss in the desert and was extremely insulting to WK!

[NChristo]

Yeah.

I remember a video posted on here where someone took Vitali Klitschko fights and made them all grainy, I figured I'd Google search to see if I could find it quick. Ended up on probably the most disturbing site I've ever seen, with a thread called "N****** Getting Their Asses Kicked." Lots of Klitschko love for beating up Shannon Briggs in there.

I should not have Google searched Vitali Klitschko Grainy Video.

It was TheGreatA, he did a Wlad one as well.

[Tom Cruise]

You think Wladimir is stylistically similar to Carnera now?

There is one similarity. They are approximate in height and weight. That is where the similarities exactly end.

The QUALITY of their size is even completely different. Carnera was acromegalic. Wladimir is a naturally big guy who has muscled right up. Carnera barely trained. Wladimir is an ultra athlete.

Now we can move on to skills. Carnera had almost exactly no skills whatsoever, he was just a plodder, like a smallert, less skilled version of Valuev. Wladimir is the most skilled technical giant of all time.

Stylistically Primo's style was to plod forward and try to hit his opponent. Wladimir's style has been described as "complete stylistic shutdown of the opponent". In other words no matter what the opponent tried to do, he has an answer for everything. That's why he is virtually invincible now.

Primo had a slow, sloppy jab. Wladimir has the best jab of all time by far.

Louis is a 200 lb plodder. a style which today is acceptable for a 240lber only.

At 200lb it is basically impossible to enter the HW division but at the very least one would need to be more like Chris Byrd.

Primo Carnera

Your post was not worth a single drop of piss in the desert and was extremely insulting to WK!

Your whole post was a complete mess but ive highlighted the parts where you sounded most ******ed.

I'm done with this now bro. You can go on thinking Wlad is invincible if you want

[bojangles1987]

It was TheGreatA, he did a Wlad one as well.

Awesome. Green.

I wish people (people who actually want to debate, not idiots and trolls) would keep this in mind when watching older videos of fighters. Honestly, what's the difference here from crappy video of a Louis or Dempsey fight? Where is the great gap in skill that people seem to think exists?

[bojangles1987]

Your whole post was a complete mess but ive highlighted the parts where you sounded most ******ed.

I'm done with this now bro. You can go on thinking Wlad is invincible if you want

He's trolling. At least I hope so. You learn pretty quick not to bother.

[Elroy1]

Your whole post was a complete mess but ive highlighted the parts where you sounded most ******ed.

I'm done with this now bro. You can go on thinking Wlad is invincible if you want

Some claim Larry Holmes has a better jab but it's not really better in any way.
Lennox Lewis had a comparable jab, but it was not as sharp demonstratably as Wladimir's.

And that's it. Nothing else is even in the neighbourhood at HW.

Just look at it! ffs.

[Tom Cruise]

He's trolling. At least I hope so. You learn pretty quick not to bother.

I hope so too...

[Elroy1]

I hope so too...

I call it "counter-trolling"

You post ****, you get hit!

[LacedUp]

Once again. Ross Puritty is a bummy boxer. But he is still more skilful than Primo, as well as being...

1/ More powerful
2/ More experienced
3/ Stronger
4/ Fitter
5/ Tougher.. MUCH Tougher!

Than Primo.

I would bet comfortably on Ross Puritty to beat Primo Carnera, Joe Louis, Joe Walcott and ALL of that eras boxers.

And you'd lose your money in the process.