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  • Cuban Linx
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    #41
    Originally posted by wildman
    Absolutely true......Avalos as well as Santa Cruz are cowards when it comes to Rigo. Frampton is another animal. I expect after a couple of more fights for seasoning, Frampton will step up to the plate. Time will tell.
    No he won't. He's the same as them. His manager made that very clear when he echoed the other cowards. "Rigo doesn't make financial sense".

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #42
      Originally posted by Cuban Linx
      No he won't. He's the same as them. His manager made that very clear when he echoed the other cowards. "Rigo doesn't make financial sense".
      That's just reality. When you grow up, you might understand.

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        #43
        The only thing cowardly about this dilemma is El Cha Cha's "fighting style."

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          #44
          Everyone has a plan. Until they get counter punched!-Rigo

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            #45
            Originally posted by jrrod02
            Of course you would point out the one exception to the rule.
            Yes Mayweather is defensive and sells, but he's the exception. Most fighters who sell, do it with their style.

            And I don't doubt his promoters are the idiots, but it was his choice to sign with them. He had a big promoter in Top Rank, and even they couldn't get him fights. HBO didn't want to broadcast Rigo. It is why when Rigo fought Agbeko, Arum was in Rigo's locker room telling him HBO execs were watching and that he needed to entertain. Rigo didn't give a ****, and is now suffering the consequences.
            Bernard Hopkins sells because of his style? Hell Devon ****in Alexander sold out his home arena when he was on the rise. Terence Crawford sells and before the Gamboa fight you all couldn't stop complaining about how boring he was.

            Who would sell more? Hopkins or Brandon Rios? If your great at what you do and are properly promoted you will fill seats.

            Rigo's situation is complicated because promoting him takes valuable time and resources. As has been proven, there are promotional companies willing to invest millions of dollars in him because he's good. So off the bat, you are wrong.

            Nobody wants to touch him because they don't want to split profits with his crooked co-promoters who bring nothing to the table.

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              #46
              Originally posted by The Ninth Layer
              Except that GGG actually sells out arenas. His fight with Marco Antonio Rubio sold so well that they're adding standing room space to the StubHub Center to accommodate. Golovkin pulls bigger numbers with each fight.
              GGG couldn't even pack the garden and the only reason they sold good on his rubio fight because rubio has his Mexican fans backing him. Watch when they fight rubio will get more cheers.

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                #47
                Originally posted by bigjavi973
                GGG couldn't even pack the garden and the only reason they sold good on his rubio fight because rubio has his Mexican fans backing him. Watch when they fight rubio will get more cheers.
                Is Cotto ducking Golovkin?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by jrrod02
                  Oh so it's a Cuban thing now.

                  I don't remember Joel Casamayor having this much trouble getting fights. If I recall he fought some of the biggest names of his division.

                  And if Yuriorkis Gamboa wasn't such an idiot bailing on a winnable fight against Rios, he could have been bigger than he was.

                  It's not a Cuban thing. It's a style thing.
                  Action sells, overly defensive doesn't.
                  Its not rigos fault that when he counter punches them, they are scared to fight. These duckers were ****ting bricks once they saw him mop the floor with donaire.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    Is Cotto ducking Golovkin?
                    According to your way of thinking, no. "it makes no financial sense". The same way GGG is ducking ward.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by pbp
                      i'm not sure about the exact figures. But this is what's going on. People that say "he can't sell because of his style", "he's boring", etc. Etc. Are full of ****. They are just regurgitating bs from dan rafael blogs and bob arum press releases. The destruction of his career began long before the donaire fight.

                      Top ranked signed rigo to a very generous deal. He got $500k minimum per fight . However, they ran into some issues because rigo had a conract with caribe promotions.

                      In 2012, rigondeaux was scheduled to fight marroqin. However, the fight was in jeopardy because caribe sued rigondeaux for breach of contract. Caribe had to work out a co-promotion agreement with top rank which arum was not happy with. Off the bat, you had tension between rigo's co-promoters.

                      Then came the donaire fight. It's no secret who top rank wanted to win. When rigondeaux won, arum had a problem. A fighter who he had to co-promote and share revenues with. After the donaire fight, top rank offered rigo a slot on zou schming undercard a couple of months later. But caribe being the geniuses they are rejected the fight because they felt that rigo should have been headlining and receiving a higher purse than zou schming. The guy that's selling the ****ing tickets!!

                      So now arum is pissed. It's no coincidence you see him destroying rigo in the media and talking about how unmarketable he is. To shove it up their ass, he says "ok, i'll let you headline." so he gives him a fight in atlantic city, on the same night as judah/malignaggi up the street in bk, and makes him headline after glen tapia, the guy that sells the tix. The fight completely flopped for obvious reasons.

                      To minimize his losses, arum gets him the sod fight, throws it on the macau card, gets it on unimas so he can finish out his contract.

                      So now rigo is a free agent. Haymon, top rank, gbp, frank warren and roc nation were all interested. Roc nation had million dollar offers on the table, warren had million dollar offers on the table and i don't know what everybody else offered. But the problem is, caribe is rigo's main promoter. They are looking for a co-promotional agreement. The reason they want this is because they have no money, they have no experience and they have no connections. They want to be a co-promoter to have their names on the banners and take a percentage of rigo's purse. Roc nation, haymon, gbp, top rank, warren, etc. Etc. All want to be exclusive and knock caribe out of the picture. And it makes sense. They are putting up all of the capital, they have all of the connections and they need complete control to properly market them. Why should caribe even be in the picture? Because caribe insisted on being a co-promoter all of these deals were taken off the table.

                      And that's where we are now. Nobody wants to work with these crooks.
                      ^^^^this right here^^^^

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