Comments Thread For: Rigondeaux's Manager: Avalos Proves To Be Cowardly!

[gbonafide]

This situation looks less like Avalos ducking than Top Rank wanting to screw Caribe the same way Haymon screwed Roc Nation. The big difference is Quillin was going to make 1.4m and Avalos was going to make 75K.

[JJRod]

Who is the #1 pound for pound fighter in the world?

Winning and proper promotion sells. That's vwhy ROC Nation and Frank Warren offered him million dollar contracts. He can't get fights because his promoter is difficult to work with. Do your research outside of Dan Rafael blogs.

Of course you would point out the one exception to the rule.
Yes Mayweather is defensive and sells, but he's the exception. Most fighters who sell, do it with their style.

And I don't doubt his promoters are the idiots, but it was his choice to sign with them. He had a big promoter in Top Rank, and even they couldn't get him fights. HBO didn't want to broadcast Rigo. It is why when Rigo fought Agbeko, Arum was in Rigo's locker room telling him HBO execs were watching and that he needed to entertain. Rigo didn't give a ****, and is now suffering the consequences.

[hamada44]

its all eddie hearn trying to get scott quigg the frampton fight. this is cynical business from him.

[Slick Veteran]

Rigo IS what GGG fanb1tches wish he were. #mostfeared

Truth.

GGG is what Rigo fans wish he was: in demand.

Not true. HBO wants you to think that but no one really cares about him. He's boring despite getting knockouts, bland personality and his opposition is uninteresting. He's also in his 30s already.. So HBO have to be urgent in making him relevant to the American public.

[Cuban Linx]

Avalos joins the Coward list of :

Leo Santa Cruz
Carl Frampton
Chris Avalos

[JJRod]

Truth.

Not true. HBO wants you to think that but no one really cares about him. He's boring despite getting knockouts, bland personality and his opposition is uninteresting. He's also in his 30s already.. So HBO have to be urgent in making him relevant to the American public.

Yes. No one cares. That is why he sells arenas well, he gets huge ratings on HBO, and is one of HBO's highlights.

[-PBP-]

how much did they want from roc nation?

I'm not sure about the exact figures. But this is what's going on. People that say "he can't sell because of his style", "he's boring", etc. etc. are full of ****. They are just regurgitating BS from Dan Rafael blogs and Bob Arum press releases. The destruction of his career began long before the Donaire fight.

Top Ranked signed Rigo to a very generous deal. He got $500K minimum per fight . However, they ran into some issues because Rigo had a conract with Caribe Promotions.

In 2012, Rigondeaux was scheduled to fight Marroqin. However, the fight was in jeopardy because Caribe sued Rigondeaux for breach of contract. Caribe had to work out a co-promotion agreement with Top Rank which Arum was not happy with. Off the bat, you had tension between Rigo's co-promoters.

Then came the Donaire fight. It's no secret who Top Rank wanted to win. When Rigondeaux won, Arum had a problem. A fighter who he had to co-promote and share revenues with. After the Donaire fight, Top Rank offered Rigo a slot on Zou Schming undercard a couple of months later. But Caribe being the geniuses they are rejected the fight because they felt that Rigo should have been headlining and receiving a higher purse than Zou Schming. The guy that's selling THE ****ING TICKETS!!

So now Arum is pissed. It's no coincidence you see him destroying Rigo in the media and talking about how unmarketable he is. To shove it up their ass, he says "OK, I'll let you headline." So he gives him a fight in Atlantic City, on the same night as Judah/Malignaggi up the street in BK, and makes him headline after Glen Tapia, the guy that sells the tix. The fight completely flopped for obvious reasons.

To minimize his losses, Arum gets him the Sod fight, throws it on the Macau card, gets it on Unimas so he can finish out his contract.

So now Rigo is a free agent. Haymon, Top Rank, GBP, Frank Warren and Roc Nation were all interested. Roc Nation had million dollar offers on the table, Warren had million dollar offers on the table and I don't know what everybody else offered. But the problem is, Caribe is Rigo's main promoter. They are looking for a co-promotional agreement. The reason they want this is because they have no money, they have no experience and they have no connections. They want to be a co-promoter to have their names on the banners and take a percentage of Rigo's purse. Roc Nation, Haymon, GBP, Top Rank, Warren, etc. etc. all want to be exclusive and knock Caribe out of the picture. And it makes sense. They are putting up all of the capital, they have all of the connections and they need complete control to properly market them. Why should Caribe even be in the picture? Because Caribe insisted on being a co-promoter all of these deals were taken off the table.

And that's where we are now. Nobody wants to work with these crooks.

[gbonafide]

Not true. HBO wants you to think that but no one really cares about him. He's boring despite getting knockouts, bland personality and his opposition is uninteresting. He's also in his 30s already.. So HBO have to be urgent in making him relevant to the American public.

Yeah, Rigo is just emanating charisma isn't he? I've never seen people walk out en masse during a GGG fight the way they did with Rigo. He makes Floyd look like an action fighter.

[sicko]

It's not the style. ROC Nation offered him a 1 year $2 million deal and Frank Warren offered him something like 2/$3m. Haymon offered him an undisclosed amount.

People want to promote him and have the resources and connections to do so.

All 3 deals were killed by his bonehead promoters, Caribe. They want total control of his career and are afraid that these big time promoters and advisors will expose their shady asses.

Yeah that Caribe connection seem to have ruined Rigondeaux Free Agent Plans

But no I was talking about the fans who are trying to make Avalos pulling out some how "RIGONDEAUX FAULT" because of his Style

[wildman]

Absolutely true......Avalos as well as Santa Cruz are cowards when it comes to Rigo. Frampton is another animal. I expect after a couple of more fights for seasoning, Frampton will step up to the plate. Time will tell.