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Cotto will never be able to beat Pacquiao
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Originally posted by megadeth View PostPoint is, Pac pursued Cotto. That means he/they wanted the fight. Now, if they wanted the fight and they felt they could've won "at any weight", then why didn't they take it? The answer is obvious.
all that matters is what they agree too.
they couldn't agree and that was that.
the person who starts the negotiation doesn't always have the lesser hand.
nor do the person with the lesser hand have to agree to the stronger hand.
none of the points you're trying to make matter.
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Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Postyeah i don't get it either.
catchweight is just like any other negotiable thing like gloves, ring sizr, trunk color, introduction or entrance.
dumbest thing is they criticize the smaller guy! dumb.
floyd and pac are smaller fighters. that's what catchweight is for. TOO LIMIT THE BIGGER GUY'S ADVANTAGE.
LIMIT AN ADVANTAGE OF THE BIGGER GUY.
NOT GIVE THE SMALLER GUY AN ADVANTAGE.
but ppl are dumb. they think weight class is a requirement NOT a limit.
At what point does the CW HANDICAP the bigger guy , I know , you got no idea when that it is because you have never professionally boxed and had to make a weight to compete at , after all your a fan with a fans view of it all .
If you go down in weight it will always take away from you , if you go up in weight it will never hurt you , the only criteria to that statement is your best weight is in the middle of the 2 extremes .Last edited by Reloaded; 09-22-2014, 05:40 PM.
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At this point, and at this weight, it would be tough to pick one. Cotto looks much better at this weight and has looked very good in his last few fights. Then again, while Pac isn't what he was during their first fight, he's still very dangerous.
If they were up for it, I'd buy this fight.
And everytime I re-watch their first fight, I'm reminded how Pacquiao in his prime was a BEAST. I think the Margo fight took a lot out of him as after that fight, he started to go down a bit.
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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostSo a guy thats never made 147 for 10 yrs and needs IV Fluids to rehydrate 2 lbs and is ultimately out weighed on the night by the little guy is just leveling the playing field .
At what point does the CW HANDICAP the bigger guy , I know , you got no idea when that it is because you have never professionally boxed and had to make a weight to compete at , after all your a fan with a fans view of it all .
If you go down in weight it will always take away from you , if you go up in weight it will never hurt you , the only criteria to that statement is your best weight is in the middle of the 2 extremes .
cw is suppose to handicap the bigger guy IDIOT.
that's what a catchweight is for.
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Originally posted by Free Booty Dew! View PostCatchweights have always been a part of boxing, they only became a big deal when the Pacman made Cotto lose a measly pound.. then all of a sudden Cotto was drained so badly he could barely walk
But after Canelo was fought at a catchweight Fl0mos be like...
jmm fight.
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Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Posthow the hell did pac outweigh cotto fight night?
cw is suppose to handicap the bigger guy IDIOT.
that's what a catchweight is for.
As for Cotto , Manny will NEVER NEVER NEVER fight him without a CW that has been PROVEN , at 154 Cotto would stop him .
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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostYou made general comments about CWs and leveling the playing field , I made a general comment referencing Oscar vs Manny . when Oscar destroyed himself before the bell rang .
As for Cotto , Manny will NEVER NEVER NEVER fight him without a CW that has been PROVEN , at 154 Cotto would stop him .
he could have rehydrated after official weigh in.
he waited til fight night to rehydrate so he can weigh light at the fight night weighin.
so when he beat pac he can claim he wasn't much bigger.
he only has himself to blame.
i don't give a **** if pac fights cotto or not with a cw.
it's up to them to negotiate.
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Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Postit doesn't matter who starts the negotiations.
all that matters is what they agree too.
they couldn't agree and that was that.
the person who starts the negotiation doesn't always have the lesser hand.
nor do the person with the lesser hand have to agree to the stronger hand.
none of the points you're trying to make matter.
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