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  • #51
    Originally posted by Infamous View Post
    This is why I don't get the arguments with the catch weights... Manny beats Cotto at any weight and Money beats Canelo at any weight too... Yet they both get discredited... I don't think catch weights don't matter obviously Dawson would have had a better chance had he fought in his own weight division against ward, but it's not like any of them, Dawson Cotto, or Canelo, would have had a different outcome...
    But you don't know if the outcome would be different. What we do know however, is that Floyd and Pacman wanted the catchweight to fight those guys. While Dawson stuffed Ward's piece in his own butt before negotiations.

    Floyd beats Canelo and Pacman beats Cotto at any weight. However both needed a catchweight to do it. That makes no sense, none.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
      But you don't know if the outcome would be different. What we do know however, is that Floyd and Pacman wanted the catchweight to fight those guys. While Dawson stuffed Ward's piece in his own butt before negotiations.

      Floyd beats Canelo and Pacman beats Cotto at any weight. However both needed a catchweight to do it. That makes no sense, none.
      Pacman was new to the weight and Cotto was only 1 pound heavier in his last 4 or so fights, he wasn't drained that's a pile of Fl0mo Cottard chit.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Free Booty Dew!;14970870[B
        ]Pacman was new to the weight[/B] and Cotto was only 1 pound heavier in his last 4 or so fights, he wasn't drained that's a pile of Fl0mo Cottard chit.
        No he wasn't.

        And weighting in at 146 is not the same as not being able to weight more than 145.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
          No he wasn't.

          And weighting in at 146 is not the same as not being able to weight more than 145.
          And Manny point blank refuses to fight Cotto WITHOUT a CW even when Manny was the one calling HIM out , your too big Cotto you must come down , your too little Juan you must come up , you can come any weight Shane now your shot , there is a subliminal message in Mannys weight manipulation that is as loud as a thunderclap for everybody other than his fanboys .

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          • #55
            Originally posted by - Righteous - View Post
            What does history and immortality have to do with anything?

            Everything.

            The fight that gets made is the one that the promoters and the public push. I made this thread because I think Pacquiao will beat Cotto at any weight and I want to see that 9th belt and 5th Lineal Title.
            Point is, Pac pursued Cotto. That means he/they wanted the fight. Now, if they wanted the fight and they felt they could've won "at any weight", then why didn't they take it? The answer is obvious.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Infamous View Post
              This is why I don't get the arguments with the catch weights... Manny beats Cotto at any weight and Money beats Canelo at any weight too... Yet they both get discredited... I don't think catch weights don't matter obviously Dawson would have had a better chance had he fought in his own weight division against ward, but it's not like any of them, Dawson Cotto, or Canelo, would have had a different outcome...
              yeah i don't get it either.

              catchweight is just like any other negotiable thing like gloves, ring sizr, trunk color, introduction or entrance.

              dumbest thing is they criticize the smaller guy! dumb.

              floyd and pac are smaller fighters. that's what catchweight is for. TOO LIMIT THE BIGGER GUY'S ADVANTAGE.

              LIMIT AN ADVANTAGE OF THE BIGGER GUY.

              NOT GIVE THE SMALLER GUY AN ADVANTAGE.

              but ppl are dumb. they think weight class is a requirement NOT a limit.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                And Manny point blank refuses to fight Cotto WITHOUT a CW even when Manny was the one calling HIM out , your too big Cotto you must come down , your too little Juan you must come up , you can come any weight Shane now your shot , there is a subliminal message in Mannys weight manipulation that is as loud as a thunderclap for everybody other than his fanboys .
                lol so being 1 pound less than your previous 4 fights makes you a dead man on the scales... I've heard it all now.

                Was Canelo drained?

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by johnm is... View Post
                  "I'll gladly fight you for your 160 title......as long as it's at 145"
                  don't be goofy.

                  155

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                    yeah i don't get it either.

                    catchweight is just like any other negotiable thing like gloves, ring size, trunk color, introduction or entrance.

                    dumbest thing is they criticize the smaller guy! dumb.

                    floyd and pac are smaller fighters. that's what catchweight is for. TOO LIMIT THE BIGGER GUY'S ADVANTAGE.

                    LIMIT AN ADVANTAGE OF THE BIGGER GUY.

                    NOT GIVE THE SMALLER GUY AN ADVANTAGE.

                    but ppl are dumb. they think weight class is a requirement NOT a limit.
                    Does anyone find this post a little ironic after what has taken place here in the last few months?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                      yeah i don't get it either.

                      catchweight is just like any other negotiable thing like gloves, ring sizr, trunk color, introduction or entrance.

                      dumbest thing is they criticize the smaller guy! dumb.

                      floyd and pac are smaller fighters. that's what catchweight is for. TOO LIMIT THE BIGGER GUY'S ADVANTAGE.

                      LIMIT AN ADVANTAGE OF THE BIGGER GUY.

                      NOT GIVE THE SMALLER GUY AN ADVANTAGE.

                      but ppl are dumb. they think weight class is a requirement NOT a limit.
                      Catchweights have always been a part of boxing, they only became a big deal when the Pacman made Cotto lose a measly pound.. then all of a sudden Cotto was drained so badly he could barely walk

                      But after Canelo was fought at a catchweight Fl0mos be like...

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