Ten Welterweights who would topple Mayweather

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  • Free Booty Dew!
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    #31
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    How can Floyd be BIG at Welterweight when he's often come to the ring 3 lbs north? Makes no sense. Feel like I've had this conversation before. Oh yes that's because I have

    It's funny that Floyd's lack of reading skills get highlighted a lot on here when reading seems to be a struggle to a lot on here aswell. Yourself especially.

    Anyway, Duran was pretty big at Lightweight. Not too big at WW. I'd still pick him over Floyd at WW, though.
    Mayweather is not a small Welterweight.

    He's either as tall or taller than most welterweights he faces and almost always has the longer reach. That is ''size''. Oh so some welter's he faces have 5-10 pounds of flab and water on him? I guess they must be real ''big guys'' eh

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      #32
      Originally posted by slipcatchroll
      Fair deuce. Just personally can't seem to remember him being weighed in that's all coupled with the fact that he looks a lot more physical than he did at the Baldomir fight as opposed to the last one.
      Yeah he didn't weigh in for this fight but he did the first one and he was 149.

      Same as Canelo he was 150.

      The last time before that was Ortiz he weighed 150.

      It was after Oscar refused to be weighed for their fight that Floyd decided to follow him and do the same.

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        #33
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        Yeah he didn't weigh in for this fight but he did the first one and he was 149.

        Same as Canelo he was 150.

        The last time before that was Ortiz he weighed 150.

        It was after Oscar refused to be weighed for their fight that Floyd decided to follow him and do the same.
        Lol that's BS. So he cuts 3 pounds but is sucking on some electrolyte water at the weigh in? gullible much?

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          #34
          Floyd Muhammad Qawi

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            #35
            Originally posted by Bardock
            Lol that's BS. So he cuts 3 pounds but is sucking on some electrolyte water at the weigh in? gullible much?


            I've always suspected those fight night weights of Floyd's are BS. He doesn't look like no 5'8 150lb guy.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Free Booty Dew!
              Mayweather is not a small Welterweight.

              He's either as tall or taller than most welterweights he faces and almost always has the longer reach. That is ''size''. Oh so some welter's he faces have 5-10 pounds of flab and water on him? I guess they must be real ''big guys'' eh
              I wouldn't say he's small but he's definitely not a big WW. Far from it but that's pretty damn obvious really.

              Anyone that's come to the ring 3 lbs north of the weigh on multiple occasions is hardly big for that weight.

              I mean, you just said it that he's 5'7. That's not really too big is it.

              Compare that to Leonard, Hearns, Robinson. They're big WW's.

              Even a guy like Griffith who's about the same height, with the same reach. It's pretty obvious he's a bigger man than Mayweather is, no?

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                #37
                Originally posted by Bardock
                Lol that's BS. So he cuts 3 pounds but is sucking on some electrolyte water at the weigh in? gullible much?
                I don't understand. You're saying because he drinks after he's been weighed that those numbers are false?

                How many times has Floyd drunk a bottle of water at the final press conference? Many times.

                What's your point? I don't understand. I doesn't matter how many pounds you cut every fighter is going to have a drink after they've been weighed.

                We've seen Floyds numbers. Or are you saying that they're fake numbers and Floyds paid off the commission etc for some reason I'm unsure of?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Free Booty Dew!


                  I've always suspected those fight night weights of Floyd's are BS. He doesn't look like no 5'8 150lb guy.
                  Oh right ok.

                  So what do you think that Floyd's paid off whoever to show these made up weights? For what reason?

                  Do you also think he's paid off the WBC for his 6 week weights aswell? Again for what reason?

                  You actually think this?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by anthonydavid11
                    1. Roberto Duran- Although a natural lightweight, Duran had many shining moments at welterweight, including his destruction of Leonard and his win over Carlos Palomino.
                    2. Sugar Ray Leonard- Tougher, faster, harder punching.
                    3. Thomas Hearns- Leonard was the only one to get past this guy at welterweight and made Hearns wait eight years for a rematch where he clearly lost. Too tall, too much power.
                    4. Henry Armstrong- A punching machine who came out non-stop. If Floyd could not hurt him(don't see it happening), Armstrong would definitely roll over him.
                    5. Felix Trinidad- Although head games did work with Trinidad and he often did best against opponents who came straight at him, his power would have overwhelmed Mayweather since Tito would never stop coming after him.
                    6. Oscar De La Hoya- I basically had De La Hoya ahead in a terrible fight, but Mayweather fought at old De La Hoya and barely got by him. In his prime, De La Hoya would have turned up the juice a lot more.
                    7. Shane Mosley- The old man Mayweather fought had lost his legs and most of his fire. Even so, Mosley rattled him bad in the second. The rattling would not have stopped there in his prime.
                    8. Pernell Whitaker- Sweet Pea would have been a nightmare for Mayweather with his speed and counter-punching. Probably would have been a dull fight, but in his prime, Pernell would have been too slick for him.
                    9. Sugar Ray Robinson- too much speed, power and athleticism. An all out bad night for Mayweather and a quick one.
                    10. Wilfred Benitez- one of the youngest champions of all time. Benitez would have beaten Mayweather at his own counterpunching game.

                    Are you basing this on Floyd's bad fights? Like against Marcos when he is past his prime and 18lbs lighter, facing a guy 8 yrs younger? Or his fight with Oscar where he had a handfull of fights at ww, then jumped to jr mw and didnt even try to walk Oscar down or do anything special? Floyd has fought much better opponents than Marcos and Oscar.

                    I think prime Floyd is unbeatable. There will never be a fighter in history that can fight Floyd's cherries, and change their entire fighting style to dominate them each without being hissed.

                    I think the Floyd who faced JMM humiliates every fighter in history. The Floyd who walked down Canelo would beat the snot out of those fighters. If he can walk down 165lbs Canelo, then what will SRL's tall skinny azz do? Throw those fast combinations, land a few shots, then after 3 rounds Floyd knows him inside and out.


                    I think based off the SRL Duran fights, Floyd would get in SRL's head with ease. SRL would try to bully him because of Floyd's "lack" of power. Or he would try to outbox him like he did Duran in the rematch and thats a no no with Floyd. SRL is the same fighter as Floyd except he has power, combination punching. While Floyd's skillset makes him look like a bum.

                    Duran got outboxed by SRL easily. If he could do it, Floyd would make Duran look even worse.

                    Yea Herns is tall and has a jab, but Floyd has a better jab, speed, skills, versitily. I think Floyd's small size would cause trouble for Herns. Floyd is a force against bigger guys and Herns is kind of a dumb guy. I think it would look like a foolish giant, moving in slow motion fighting against an android sent to teach the world how to box.

                    SRR was a HORRIBLE fighter. In his era he had so much speed and power. But in this era a fighter like that would seem slow. He lost to Jake Lomatta. I can imagine Floyd making him pay for his mistakes, for those haymakers that he throws from his hips is a huge no no.

                    I think Pacman, stylistically would DESTROY Ray Rob. Ray Rob's footwork was horrible and he seems slow compared to modern fighters.

                    Pernell Whitaker could never walk down Canelo. He also got touched by all calibers of fighters. I dont think he can outbox Floyd or have the focus to.

                    Im not biased for past atg's and Im not going to pretend like they are unbeatable Gods. I think Pac and Floyd both destroy them all. I think Pac would be too small for Herns. But I think Herns would seem as if he were fighting an engenius infant tonado if he ever fkd around with Floyd.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Free Booty Dew!
                      Mayweather is not a small Welterweight.

                      He's either as tall or taller than most welterweights he faces and almost always has the longer reach. That is ''size''. Oh so some welter's he faces have 5-10 pounds of flab and water on him? I guess they must be real ''big guys'' eh
                      Not true. Although Boxrec and tail of the tape list him as the same size as everyone else, we can clearly see that he is very small compared to his opponents. He walked down a Jumbo Giant Man in Canelo. Ghost looks about 5'11 with arms waay longer than Floyd's.

                      Ortiz seemed to be about the same height tho.

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