Ten Welterweights who would topple Mayweather

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  • nauti4life85
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    #21
    Originally posted by Free Booty Dew!
    Stop talking about this faqqot Floyd as being some mystery unsolvable puzzle.

    Duran beats him and Leanord ****s him up... he's too fast and has the stamina and power.

    Mayweather ducked the best of our generation and barely beat a faded Oscar. He
    s struggled with every past prime HOF he's faced.
    Thing is there's no point to these threads. It's always if so n so was vs Mayweather at their prime then this would happen. So are you using a Prime Mayweather vs these guys or this faded Mayweather we see today? Then you have some different outcomes sir. I'm not saying Mayweather wins all these fights handily but he still has a chance if you are talking prime vs prime. Btw the best of our generation generally duck each other pretty evenly stop with those statements.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #22
      Originally posted by Freedom2014
      Stop that nonsense about Floyd being small. Floyd grew into a BIG welterweight.

      That's why he couldn't make the catch weight for the much smaller JMM.

      Duran started at bantamweight, and grew into lightweight.

      Floyd started at junior lightweight, and grew into a welterweight.
      How can Floyd be BIG at Welterweight when he's often come to the ring 3 lbs north? Makes no sense. Feel like I've had this conversation before. Oh yes that's because I have

      It's funny that Floyd's lack of reading skills get highlighted a lot on here when reading seems to be a struggle to a lot on here aswell. Yourself especially.

      Anyway, Duran was pretty big at Lightweight. Not too big at WW. I'd still pick him over Floyd at WW, though.

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      • slipcatchroll
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        #23
        Originally posted by big_james10
        You took the words right out of my mouth. The threadstarter and all the other hillbillies who make threads like this comparing Mayweather to the great WW of the past always compare the Mayweather of today, at age 37 to the great welterweights in their prime At age 37, Sugar Ray Leonard was retired. He lost a fight to Terry Norris at age 31 and did not fight again until 39, when he suffered a KO loss to Hector Camacho. At age 37 Duran was losing to journeymen at middleweight, Tommy Hearns was fighting journeymen at cruiserweight, and Ray Robinson suffered 15 of his 19 losses at the age of 37 and beyond.

        If anybody wants to compare Floyd to the greats of yesteryear, they should compare the greats at 130 to Floyd when they were both in their primes. Comparing 37 year-old Floyd Mayweather in his fourth weight class to 25 year old Sugar Ray Leonard in his first weight class is ridiculous.
        Even though he is in his third weight class and his reflexes have slowed a bit Mayweather operates just fine in the ring because he hasn't taken enough punishment. But as far as Duran goes because he's defensively inept, so to speak, there's no doubt that his abilities were extremely limited at his age.
        I said it in a previous thread and I'll say it again the fight between SRL and Floyd wouldn't be that different in any of their respective primes at welterweight.

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          #24
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          How can Floyd be BIG at Welterweight when he's often come to the ring 3 lbs north? Makes no sense. Feel like I've had this conversation before. Oh yes that's because I have

          It's funny that Floyd's lack of reading skills get highlighted a lot on here when reading seems to be a struggle to a lot on here aswell. Yourself especially.

          Anyway, Duran was pretty big at Lightweight. Not too big at WW. I'd still pick him over Floyd at WW, though.
          Floyd refusing to weigh himself on fight night for the last Maidana fight is highly suspect though and the fact that he looks physically bigger than he did in the Baldomir fight.

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            #25
            Originally posted by slipcatchroll
            Floyd refusing to weigh himself on fight night for the last Maidana fight is highly suspect though and the fact that he looks physically bigger than he did in the Baldomir fight.
            How is it suspect? He's done it in the past.

            Oscar used to refuse to be weighed on fight night, that's the whole reason Floyd started it doing it himself because Oscar didn't weigh in for their fight. Is he suspect?

            Floyd didn't weigh for Marquez, Mosley, Cotto, Guererro

            He did weigh for Ortiz (150), Canelo (150), Maidana 1(149)

            Those weights are I between those. Sometimes he weighs in, sometimes he doesn't.

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            • slipcatchroll
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              #26
              How is it the three times Floyd's been hurt in a fight with a good shot (Judah,Corley,Mosley) they can't capitalize on it but somehow a prime version of Mosley does?

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                #27
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                The 20 historians and journalists that voted had floyd ahead of Roy, bhop and manny. So it's pretty clear who the best of this generation is.

                Well its clear to people outside of manny fans and the anti floyd set.
                Ducking pays dividends I guess.

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                • Free Booty Dew!
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  So start naming them then. Go ahead, name 5 of the best fighters of our generation. Also with your list, tell me if they are going into HOF or considered ATG's.
                  Manny Pacquiao, Manny Pacquiao, Manny Pacquiao, Manny Pacquiao and Manny Pacquiao.

                  Oh and Margarito .

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                  • slipcatchroll
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    How is it suspect? He's done it in the past.

                    Oscar used to refuse to be weighed on fight night, that's the whole reason Floyd started it doing it himself because Oscar didn't weigh in for their fight. Is he suspect?

                    Floyd didn't weigh for Marquez, Mosley, Cotto, Guererro

                    He did weigh for Ortiz (150), Canelo (150), Maidana 1(149)

                    Those weights are I between those. Sometimes he weighs in, sometimes he doesn't.
                    Fair deuce. Just personally can't seem to remember him being weighed in that's all coupled with the fact that he looks a lot more physical than he did at the Baldomir fight as opposed to the last one.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Freedom2014
                      Stop that nonsense about Floyd being small. Floyd grew into a BIG welterweight.

                      That's why he couldn't make the catch weight for the much smaller JMM.

                      Duran started at bantamweight, and grew into lightweight.

                      Floyd started at junior lightweight, and grew into a welterweight.
                      A BIG ww?? so a huge ww comes in on fight night at 150...wtf is wrong with you man?? do you share this account or something??

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