Floyd Mayweather Jr Lost a Step? Statistics Show Otherwise

[Grimgash]

What does this prove? Lol. He's 37 years old there is no problem admitting he's lost a step or two. He can't be prime forever

He has def lost a step. Hes still a top fighter...though its funny Floyd can dominate an opponent and we talk like he has lost bad and should retire. If he wants to keep his 0 though it might be about time though.

[IronDanHamza]

Three judges from the UK, in the UK, 114-113, 115-113, 115-112 against a shopworn, close to retirement Julio Diaz. But he's some how going to beat Floyd Mayweather? I don't see it. I need to see Khan beating any top 10 WW, Brook, Alexander, Guerrero, anybody in the top 10. Josesito Lopez just doesn't cut it.

I didn't say he'd beat him.

Just that he'd trouble him and make him look his age.

[-Kev-]

I guess we'll have to wait and see on that one because I think it's going to happen.

And I guarantee that Khan will give today's Floyd many problems. Win? I don't know but he'll definitely trouble him.

Can't prove anything until it happens.

If you put it like that, "trouble him", sure I agree. Corley troubled him, Augustus, Mitchell too, Judah, Cotto, Maidana. Floyd could be "troubled". But you said Khan will make Mayweather look old. But what I saw in the Khan-Diaz fight was Khan was made to look old by an old man(Diaz is not THAT old but in boxing years he is).

[RubenSonny]

What's most noticeable, and I do mean most, is that at times when guys come in he isn't no where near as good at moving into different angles and countering. Mayweather is forced to stand there, making himself more presentable a target.

Maidana has to be given credit, again he bends his knees and every time Mayweather started leading Maidana would get low, trying to bait Mayweather into a counter.

Yep, his positioning and balance was relatively terrible at times last night.

[radioraheem]

If you put it like that, "trouble him", sure I agree. Corley troubled him, Augustus, Mitchell too, Judah, Cotto, Maidana. Floyd could be "troubled". But you said Khan will make Mayweather look old. But what I saw in the Khan-Diaz fight was Khan was made to look old by an old man(Diaz is not THAT old but in boxing years he is).

It's funny man. They somehow believe Floyd leaves all of his fights untouched. Totally forgetting that he does get hit. It's just kept to a minimum of clean shots. The guy gets criticised no matter the outcome of a bout.

Just before this fight, they were all clamoring about how he has no legs.

[IronDanHamza]

If you put it like that, "trouble him", sure I agree. Corley troubled him, Augustus, Mitchell too, Judah, Cotto, Maidana. Floyd could be "troubled". But you said Khan will make Mayweather look old. But what I saw in the Khan-Diaz fight was Khan was made to look old by an old man(Diaz is not THAT old but in boxing years he is).

I don't think any of those guys really troubled Floyd outside of 1 or 2 instances other than Maidana.

Khan will cause Floyd a lot of problems, I believe. Especially early.

That's the perfect way to put it, "Boxing years".

That's the exact difference I referred to earlier when you talked about Marquez and Hopkins.

Floyd in "Boxing years" is old. He's been at the top level for 17 years, that's a whole lot of time in "Boxing years".

[MrP4P]

I still think its such a shame Maidana isnt credited... noone wants to admit that Maidana is just hell to deal with. Alexander is the only fighter to have his way with Maidana and that was his first fight at 147 and without Robert Garcia. Mayweather has lost a step but hes not slipping, he just looks awkward trying to press the attack at this age especially because it was never really his style to begin with, so he gets tagged abit more while hes attemping to press the issue. Hes actually shown he can take a good shot, everyone else Maidana has fought has went through punishment, Mayweather took his shots well.

[joseph5620]

Definitely a mixture of both.

That's the reason why I thought Maidana would be one of Floyd's toughest fights (The first one).

The mixture of Floyd's decline combined with the fact Floyd hasn't fought a styles similar to Maidana's that will bring the fight the full 12 rounds since Hatton.

Also, to go back to your point about the years of fighting and sparring, I think the constant year + lay off's between 07-12 had a big effect on his aging.

I'll never forget when he had the year and a half lay off between Mosley and Ortiz and at the Ortiz press conference he looked like he'd aged years in the face.

He did look a lot older in face between Mosley and Ortiz lol.

[-Kev-]

I don't think any of those guys really troubled Floyd outside of 1 or 2 instances other than Maidana.

Khan will cause Floyd a lot of problems, I believe. Especially early.

That's the perfect way to put it, "Boxing years".

That's the exact difference I referred to earlier when you talked about Marquez and Hopkins.

Floyd in "Boxing years" is old. He's been at the top level for 17 years, that's a whole lot of time in "Boxing years".

Guys I consider old in boxing years are like Margarito who fought Pac and on, Julio Diaz, H. Soto, basically guys who have an unfavorable boxing style to their health. Ortiz with all the punishment he's taken will be old fast, Rios too, Provodnikov. Dawson is more of a chin problem, always has been, as far back as the Adamek and first Johnson fight.

Mayweather has taken so little punishment in his career, I would argue he is like a 30 year old now. Khan is 27 and probably has like 3 prime years left, and his prime isn't even that good.

I think boxing is too easy for Floyd, thanks to his genes. We are making a big discussion about if he's lost it or not, yet here he is winning 10 rounds to 2. Even in his worst offensive performance I have seen against Cotto, I had him winning 9 rounds to 3. We can debate if he's lost it or not, but chances are he's going to stay in that 8-4 or 9-3 realm until he retires, no matter how bad he looks or he fights.

Like I have said so many times before but not many agree with me, Floyd has had an old man's style since entering WW in 2005. His style from 2005-present doesn't rely heavily on speed or reflexes, that was his 130-140 style that relied much more on reflexes and speed. He's all about timing now.

[Weebler I]

If you put it like that, "trouble him", sure I agree. Corley troubled him, Augustus, Mitchell too, Judah, Cotto, Maidana. Floyd could be "troubled". But you said Khan will make Mayweather look old. But what I saw in the Khan-Diaz fight was Khan was made to look old by an old man(Diaz is not THAT old but in boxing years he is).

Why go back to the Diaz fight and not the Collazo fight?

The Diaz fight was only his second fight with Hunter, he was still making a change to his style. Collazo is also a better welterweight than Diaz.