Ortiz did not beat the count

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Someone call REED. Tell him to bring the yellow tape and the body bags. We have a crime scene in our hands.

Shots being fired and a lot of people arent getting up.

[MDPopescu]

Without racer59's post at #135 all sorts of ****** posters would have continued to roll this thread on and on.

Note: I never saw a ****** poster here to simply admit "well, I was wrong..."

[brickcityboxing]

You can't make this stuff up...

[Dean_Razorback]

Khan was on ***** street tho

in the 3º round he was badly hurt, but in the 4º (the one i was referring) he wasn't that bad, he beat the count and he even responded to bayless.

[MrRolltide91]

he was up.....

[KRITKL]

people getting hurt feelings in this thread
If you go by the rules Racer posted then yes, he was not up.
IMO feel the ref should of let it go on.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

he was up.....

The rule says otherwise.

[FerFAL]

I was just reading some Mexican news, lots of comments saying that Ortiz was ****y and disrespectful with other boxers back home, thinking himself better than everyone else. Most Mexicans commenting were glad he got stopped and brought down from his high horse.

[Tom Cruise]

Ok i just round to watching this fight...

Lack of common sense from ref and dumb ******ity from the fighter i reckon.

Ortiz either miscounted what number the ref was counting, doesnt understand you cant start standing up at nine (fcking hell even if you are up at 9.5 why take the chance?), or just did the whole 'quit without looking like I want to quit' routine.

Ref should have used common sense and let the fight carry on IMO. Even if he was well within his rights to stop it. If Ortiz was really done he would have known pretty quick, and its not like he had taken a lot of damage in the fight.

So yeah, my two cents.

[soul_survivor]

I hate to defend Ortiz because he was awful and would have been brutally beaten anyway but you guys are wrong here.

First, it doesn't matter how many real time seconds have passed. It goes by the referees count which Ortiz did beat.

Second, just take a look at the boxing rules. It only states that a fighter must be on his feet before the count of 10. Ortiz was on his feet before the count of ten. His knee was no longer on the canvas when Benjy said ten. This isn't hard to get.

spot on here, although I don't think Ortiz was terrible, he was giving it a good try but all that's irrelevant, he was up at the count of 9...it doesn't matter at what stage you get up, you just gotta get up before 10 and people here don't seem to get that. It was like the Malik Scot KO.

On Ortiz's part, he should have risen at 8 but he stayed that extra second longer, it shouldn't have been a ko either way tbh.