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  • #81
    Originally posted by Foreign Soil View Post
    Develop from the beginning... it's obvious he would need more... Floyd's competition wasn't good early on, it was Broner like.. let's not pretend he was stopping good fighters or anything. If all Floyd had was pressure, he wouldn't even be talked about because he isn't particularly good at it.
    I can't even take you seriously. Floyd competition wasn't good early on?

    Daniel Geale is the **** doe

    Kovalev and Golvkin will need more when they start facing fighters who actually hit back.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
      I can't even take you seriously. Floyd competition wasn't good early on?

      Daniel Geale is the **** doe

      Kovalev and Golvkin will need more when they start facing fighters who actually hit back.
      The featherweights Floyd fought were nothing near special, if you say otherwise you're overrating them. Corrales and then at lightweight with Castillo were exceptions, - looked great against Corrales, but struggled with Castillo twice. What's the point? Floyd isn't great at fighting forward, he's just not natural at it or else he'd "Gatti" everyone, especially since he cherry picks. Having power isn't a "skill" but being able to land it does take skill, obviously..

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Foreign Soil View Post
        The featherweights Floyd fought were nothing near special, if you say otherwise you're overrating them. Corrales and then at lightweight with Castillo were exceptions, - looked great against Corrales, but struggled with Castillo twice. What's the point? Floyd isn't great at fighting forward, he's just not natural at it or else he'd "Gatti" everyone, especially since he cherry picks. Having power isn't a "skill" but being able to land it does take skill, obviously..
        Painful reading. The irony is just too much....

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
          Painful reading. The irony is just too much....
          The irony gets thicker every time you post.

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          • #85
            Using Broner logic.

            "Sugar Ray killed a man, and Kovalev killed a man. So that means Kovalev is the closest thing to Sugar Ray Robinson!"

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            • #86
              Originally posted by From Russia View Post
              so why 2 fighters with same weight and hand speed have absolutely different punching power? Because one of them knows how to shift his weight and has better coordination, and you can work and improve those things...
              Perhaps call it a talent, something in part natural attribute, but capable of being improved by practice and training.

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              • #87
                It could also just be style/strategy. Not every guy with a light touch simply can't punch talent wise. A lot of trainers just prioritize touching then covering and moving over following through with every punch.

                Almost every punch Kovalev throws seems intent on causing damage, so on one hand if he starts landing opponents basically melt in front of him but if he doesn't, he could be pretty vulnerable to a dirty/counter boxer. Makes the Hopkins fight interesting.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Foreign Soil View Post
                  Develop from the beginning... it's obvious he would need more... Floyd's competition wasn't good early on, it was Broner like.. let's not pretend he was stopping good fighters or anything. If all Floyd had was pressure, he wouldn't even be talked about because he isn't particularly good at it.
                  Complete nonsense.

                  Floyds competition was very good early on.

                  Hernandez
                  C.Hernandez
                  Corrales
                  Manfredy
                  Chavez
                  Castillo x2

                  Stopped all but Castillo and C.Hernandez.

                  All top level and ranked fighters

                  Broner like?

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                  • #89
                    Corrales n Castillo >>> than the rest. The others were solid level fighters but lets not act like they were anything more, and Floyd was bigger than most(the Broner correlation).

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Foreign Soil View Post
                      Corrales n Castillo >>> than the rest. The others were solid level fighters but lets not act like they were anything more, and Floyd was bigger than most(the Broner correlation).
                      Well yeah they were better because they were elite level.

                      All the others were top level fighters and top ranked fighters and he wasn't bigger than all of the either.

                      The Broner "correlation" is ******ed and their isn't any correlation.

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