Comparing Lacy with Trinidad coming off multi divisional titles in a string of PPV KO's is a might stretch. As is comparing him to Oscar, who was at his 4th weight coming off his only career loss, a very contraversial loss to Trinidad.
In both those cases you the fighters that lost being proven pound for pound super stars.
Lacy was looking like a great prospect, was strong, and the way Calazghe beat him was admirable and shocking and very impressive.
But suggesting beating a fighter with 21 pro fights who hadn't beat serious competition himself should vault Joe into the top 5 is way too rash.
As I said, 8 - 10, maybe, but no way should he be any higher than that.
The reason I brought those up was more to refute your "hey, it's only one big win!" argument. Now your saying it boils down to who the "big win" is against and how good they are.
Calling Lacy a "prospect" is just some leftover Calzaghe-hate creeping out. The guy was a prospect in 2000, dude. In Mar 2006 the guy was a reigning IBF champion who was coming off of his -what?- 4th defense? 5th? I mean, he was not "green" and had passed through all the gatekeepers of the division and had beaten several of the top fighters in the division, and done it in dominating fashion. I think he'd left "prospect" long behind. He was a reigning, defending world titlist going into the 5th defense of his title.
The reason I brought those up was more to refute your "hey, it's only one big win!" argument. Now your saying it boils down to who the "big win" is against and how good they are.
Calling Lacy a "prospect" is just some leftover Calzaghe-hate creeping out. The guy was a prospect in 2000, dude. In Mar 2006 the guy was a reigning IBF champion who was coming off of his -what?- 4th defense? 5th? I mean, he was not "green" and had passed through all the gatekeepers of the division and had beaten several of the top fighters in the division, and done it in dominating fashion. I think he'd left "prospect" long behind. He was a reigning, defending world titlist going into the 5th defense of his title.
The point is, he's had 21 pro fights, none agaisnt A class opposition.
That's why he wasn't on pound for pound lists yet.
That's also why he doesn't compare to guys like Tito, Oscar and Barrera when they were on the losing end of spectactular one sided fights.
It was a great win over a good fighter, but it was one win. The 1st time he's had a noteworthy win in years.
Taylor #4? Really... and what has he done other than won 2 fights by a very, very, f'ing very close desisions over a 40+ year old...?
Castillo? Good one... Someone who has 3 losses in his last 12 fights
Wright #1? Because he embarassed Trini..? Well, Lacy completely outclassed Lacy, and?
Oh.. I know...... It's the American, anti-European factor again, that's what it is... the bias view got into your head
Why are you so paranoid? You remind me of ****** ******** who think all white males are bigots. Get a clue, jackass.
Taylor beat the number one 4p guy twice. Wright deserved the nod over Vargas, had two wins over Mosley, and easily defeated Tito in a way that not many foresaw. He has been very consistent for YEARS. Castillo has fought 10x better opposition than Calzaghe, which is why he has those 3 losses. One of those losses was highly disputed need I remind you. Also, one was to Floyd in a rematch and the other was a loss he AVENGED BRUTALLY.
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