Juan Manuel Marquez = Modern day Buster Douglas

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Lmao! It's worse because they cry robbery for the first 3 Pacquiao fights, 1 Pac should've won by a point. 2 was close but Pacquiao won, 3 could've gone either way but Juan took round 12 off because of Nachos bone head advice. 4 he comes in looking like a mini hulk, drops Pac (never before) then ktfo Pac.

Then after that we have him showing up with chest acne at 40 years old against Alvarado "that ain't su****ious doe!"

I even showed the video of Memo buying AND injecting himself with steroids and they say nothing.

i also truly can't decide who the bigger whiner is...he or Rafa...those fools are still undefeated in their minds

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Then after that we have him showing up with chest acne at 40 years old against Alvarado "that ain't su****ious doe!"

So if the acne for Alvarado means he was on steroids wouldn't that mean he wasn't on roids for the 4th Pacquiao 18 months prior where he showed no signs of acne?

[Beercules]

No but how is that not a good win?

You said he was badly faded so I'm not sure you're aware of the circumstances. Casamayor was on a nice little winning streak and had just defeated a young undefeated hungry lion in Katsdis.

That's a pretty good win for a guy in his mid 30's moving up in weight against the lightweight ring champ at a time when that meant something. Not only did he beat him he was the first fighter to get the ko.

No matter how you cut it; Casamayor was at the tail end of his career. Tell me what had he done after the Marquez loss?

It was the perfect time for JMM to get Joel. JMM has proven his longevity, but if you include Casamayor as one of Juan's greatest wins then something's wrong.

[Beercules]

So if the acne for Alvarado means he was on steroids wouldn't that mean he wasn't on roids for the 4th Pacquiao 18 months prior where he showed no signs of acne?

Memo probably gave him the extra special ****tail for Mike, why all of a sudden can he put down and out Pacquiao?

Nice of you to ignore my Memo steroid video. Would you like to see it?

[jas]

great thread by booty dew

marquez is clearly a cheat, its so clear ray charles could see it

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So if the acne for Alvarado means he was on steroids wouldn't that mean he wasn't on roids for the 4th Pacquiao 18 months prior where he showed no signs of acne?

no it means long term use because i think acne is a sign of long term abuse. along with his man boobies and steroid veins.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

I dislike the prick faced TS but I certainly agree with him in this one.

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Memo probably gave him the extra special ****tail for Mike, why all of a sudden can he put down and out Pacquiao?

Nice of you to ignore my Memo steroid video. Would you like to see it?

So he needs extra special roids for Alvarado but not Pacquiao?

He dropped Pacquiao unlike the other 3 fights because in their first two fights Pacquiao was a HUGE featherweight/ superfeatherweight. In fact, Pacquiao had problems making weight for the second fight and then rehydrated all the way up to around 145 lbs. In the 3rd fight Marquez still wasn't fully built into the higher weight, only had fought Floyd but then went straight back down to lightweight.

Feel free to post the video.

[dan_cov]

You could nitpick just about any fighters in histories resume.

Marquez was tested for the 4th fight with Pacquaio, those tests all came back negative. Going by the same logic was Manny on juice and cycled off for the third fight seeing he never dropped Marquez but did in all the other fights?

Bringing Marquez down is essentially bringing Manny down considering its one of Manny's best wins. Even if he is or was on juice he is not anymore suspect than Manny a guy who flat out refused testing and his own trainer went on record and said he could of been on something.

[Beercules]

So he needs extra special roids for Alvarado but not Pacquiao?

He dropped Pacquiao unlike the other 3 fights because in their first two fights Pacquiao was a HUGE featherweight/ superfeatherweight. In fact, Pacquiao had problems making weight for the second fight and then rehydrated all the way up to around 145 lbs. In the 3rd fight Marquez still wasn't fully built into the higher weight, only had fought Floyd but then went straight back down to lightweight.

Feel free to post the video.

You do realize that normally fighters don't carry their power up with them right? I know Juan hits hard but to knock out a guy you couldn't drop in 36 rounds and then knock him out? then Alvarado (a much bigger guy) gets nearly blasted out of the ring.

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