Embarrassing Fight Night God-Praying Backfires?

[Aztekkas]

What I don't understand is those whom don't believe in a God or Religion mocking/bashing those who do. Yet they claim Religious folks are the condescending ones whom are always pushing their beliefs onto others.

Religious Man: Thanks God.

Typical Internet Atheist: BS! LOL still believe in fairytales, what a dumbass! You are the scum of the earth, go and die and never breed!

and so the back and forth begins and it becomes a cycle.

In which shape or form does it affect anyone if a man choses to thank his God during a speech? Does it take away from the action if a fighter prays before the fight starts? Does it improve their performance? Does thanking God discredit an artists hard work and accomplishments?

Nope. Just let them be and move on. If you're smart enough to believe/not believe in a God than good for you… *clap clap* just learn to be respectful towards others.

[HanzGruber]

I don't even...

[Panama Red]

The religious as well as atheists have their own respective forms of fundamentalism. Both tend to be narrow minded and intolerant of others who do not share their ideology. I believe in God, but am not particularly dogmatic. I find religious fundamentalists to be hateful and annoying as hell, just as I find people like Bill Maher to be equally hateful.

[Butt stuff]

If I was God, I'd be all "woah why are you idiots worshipping me? I've been like blowing up stars in other dimensions and **** this whole time. I'm omnipotent I got way more fun things to do than have you bow at my feet. I'm not some narcissistic d*ckhead. Go have fun guys- just try not to kill each other alright?"

[DreamMerchant12]

god has a destiny for everyone.

look at what pac accomplished after getting ko'ed.

and i'm sure porter will do great things as well as long as he keeps a strong love for the Lord.

As long as he works hard and stays focused, in other words.

[Wuckoo]

Guys come on this is boxing. I for one don't care what religion a fighter follows if any. As long as he works hard and fights his best that's all you could want. While some fighters are very religious that doesn't change the fact that they were successful through their hard work.

I may be atheist but one thing I've noticed is people don't call out fighters for thanking god but when Hamed mentions his god (Allah) people went nuts and started hating on him. Just a slight bias I've noticed that occurs a few times.

But the bottom line is if a fighter wants to thank whoever he believes helped him, regardless of whether you believe then to be real or not, then let him. The fighter's just earned his win so we can at least let him thank whoever he wants.

[#1Assassin]

I can think of a few..

Obviously most recent is Shawn Porter when he did that real strange hugging thing with his pops before the fight, praying to their gods..

Another one which springs to mind is when Hamed did the whole god praying religious shout out before the Barrera fight and ends up getting beat

what about when pacquiao held a praying ceremony in his hotel room with like 20 people before the marquez fight and then he gets ko'd

any others?

how is that embarrassing?

most fighters just pray for everyone involved to leave the ring without any permanent injury, very few pray for a win.

even if a fighter does pray for a W and doesnt get it, whats embarrassing about that?

just means he really wants to win but failed, everyone wants to win but someone has to lose. anyone religious will tell you God works in mysterious ways, he doesnt always give you what you want. so i dont see whats embarrassing about their prayers not being answered either.

i dont get it, whats supposed to be embarrassing?

[Syf]

I'm sorry, but any grown adult who believes in a mythical being/god and talks to this "god" in his head via prayer, then I have to consider this person delusional. There's no other explanation.

Just because you've silenced your inner voice doesn't make it the TRUTH. What guides your morality..your honor... your righteousness? Human law? Or do you even possess any of these things O iniquitous man?

i love the porter prayer circle. i'm going to start championing a prayer circle at parties.

The most powerful prayer is to be conducted in private, primarily. Loud prayer conducted to be seen is for others' benefit and not your own.

Well as a child its understandable. They know and believe what's instilled into them. There comes a point in time where you mature and have to apply logic to many things in life. When something just makes absolutely no sense you have to take a step back and really disect it and make a logical decision whether to continue to follow it or not.

Now many people are weak and cant handle the thought of there not being a "god" looking over them. Those I have a sort of sympathy for. They need to believe in something.

I am a scholar and an intellectual, amongst other things. Still believe in God.. study God's word and you will find reward.

Floyd is an idiot. Anything he says should be considered a joke

A Christian in name only. A hypocrite. For it is written: it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Another one that comes to mind is Dirrell in the Froch fight, then losing lol.

I have no problem with fighters or people believing in God or whatever helps them.

One thing I don't like though is when athletes "thank god for the victory" or an actor thanks god for winning some award.

I just feel like their are so many other things that actually matter, as oppose to your silly sport or movie that "God" would/should care about.

Alpha and Omega.. All and nothing.

Your life, God can be with you for all of it.. or none of it. Depends how stiff your neck is and hard your heart is.

Takes a real egotistical mother****er to think the God you believe in will help you beat the **** out of another human being, or you think God actually did help you beat the **** out of another human being.

Andre Ward knows, that's why he hugs instead of punching and why he doesn't want to fight anymore.

It's possible if you fight only to glorify God and not yourself. Problem is.. 99 percent of humanity is too blinded by ego and pride to glorify anything but themselves in their heart.

I wonder if there are any boxers who are atheists or agnostic, but on TV they thank god to please the fans, promoters, managers, network, etc? maybe to please brands who are endorsing them, or to look more attractive and humble to potential brands. I'm going to be honest, I would not be comfortable claiming i'm atheist if I was a pro athlete. I think you would cause controversy, especially if you are a popular athlete. The media will crucify you and you will be treated like if you are the devil.

For all we know, we might have been put here as microscopic organisms by an advanced alien race doing an experiment on planet Earth. This superior alien race could be seen as beings of "greater power". I'm not saying this is what happened, all i'm saying is that maybe a "god" could exist, just with a different interpretation. But if "god" is actually an alien race, then that crushes the historical view of what humans thought god was, and destroys "the bible".

Who created the Aliens then? Personally, This alien obsession nowadays is funded by Scientology to undermine the Church of Christ.

There are good people that only bad things happen to them, they don't have a good event to talk about in their life. There are children who don't have one bad thought in their mind, yet they starve to death. Over 3 million children die of starvation every year. They have never done anything wrong, all they ever did was be born.

And they will be exalted, as promised.. whereas unrepentant sinners' souls face the refining fire, for only pure souls are worthy to rest amongst God's spirit. This eye blink of a life is your only reference point... but all of creation and the beginning and the end of time is God's.

Either god is all powerful or he isn't.

If he is all powerful, then he could immediately stop all the suffering in the world. He could give food to the millions of children who starve to death. He could stop children being murdered, ****d and sold into slavery.

If he can't do that as you say, then he is not all powerful, in which case he's not any kind of god.

If he is all powerful and could stop the millions suffering but chooses not to, then he is evil.

There is no other choice. All your reasoning and justifications are all bull**** so you don't have to admit the clarity of the above. It's really simple. He's either all powerful or he's not. If he is, then he chooses to let the suffering happen when it would be trivial for him to stop it, and if he's not all powerful then he's no god.

It's sad that lower intelligence people such as yourself waste their lives thinking there is a fairy in the sky guiding them and helping them - which encourages them to do ridiculous stuff like "pray" and "have faith" rather than doing stuff that actually would make a difference. Your religion is evil and responsible for incredible suffering.

God granted us dominion and free will.



Too many hypocrites spread amongst the straight up non believers in this day. We would be as Sodom or Judah when it was smashed by Babylon if it wasn't for the intercession of our Lord the Christ. God not only created you. He spilled his own blood for you, O iniquitous man.

I pray for all.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

What I don't understand is those whom don't believe in a God or Religion mocking/bashing those who do. Yet they claim Religious folks are the condescending ones whom are always pushing their beliefs onto others.

Religious Man: Thanks God.

Typical Internet Atheist: BS! LOL still believe in fairytales, what a dumbass! You are the scum of the earth, go and die and never breed!

and so the back and forth begins and it becomes a cycle.

In which shape or form does it affect anyone if a man choses to thank his God during a speech? Does it take away from the action if a fighter prays before the fight starts? Does it improve their performance? Does thanking God discredit an artists hard work and accomplishments?

Nope. Just let them be and move on. If you're smart enough to believe/not believe in a God than good for you***8230; *clap clap* just learn to be respectful towards others.

First off all atheists aren't like that.

Second, there's a reason for this and it's because of the way religious people shove their beliefs in your face.

Why doesn't the TS make a thread about how fighters pray and are successful?

Who cares if people pray, who cares what they believe.

[Syf]

First off all atheists aren't like that.

Second, there's a reason for this and it's because of the way religious people shove their beliefs in your face.

Why doesn't the TS make a thread about how fighters pray and are successful?

Who cares if people pray, who cares what they believe.

Most atheists I've known are vocal about their emptiness, as if that is something someone would actually want.

But as for me, I do not blaze into people. However... This thread, and many in it, seem to be attacking faith.