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        #93
        Originally posted by FlatLine
        Do you know of any boxers who are open atheists in the sport? Man, it's crazy times, atheism should be the norm, in fact it shouldn't even be called atheism it should be called "normal". Anyone who believes in these fictional characters should be called abnormal, delusion, indoctrinated etc.. but we live in a strange world where those beliefs in fantasy are still accepted. No different to believing in Zeus - but modern-day religious people laugh at the thought of believing in Zeus, it's really only a matter of time before everyone will laugh at those who believed in the gods of our time. It's really crazy that people are still dumb enough to do that! No offense but it's true.
        I personally do not.believe in a all mighty creator and follow a form .ofatheism, I will just call it positive atheism/naturalistic pantheism, because too.many atheist.come off as being too negative. Billions of people in the world and religion has been around too long to just be turned off unfortunately but you gotta let people believe what they want, as long as they are positive people and do not.force it down others throats, then we will be alright, except for the extremist.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Divine Hammer
          i hope when the time comes you don't hide from the Lord in shame. remember that he will forgive those who seek forgiveness on that day of his return.

          on the day of his return there will be everlasting peace.

          peace be with you always.
          Oh thank you and I implore you to do the same, worshiping 3 gods is not what the great spirit wants from you.

          Reject the false religion of Christianity and accept Jainism as a path for peace and eternal happiness.

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              Convert Divine Hammer! I don't want to see your soul lost!

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987
                  Takes a real egotistical mother****er to think the God you believe in will help you beat the **** out of another human being, or you think God actually did help you beat the **** out of another human being.

                  Andre Ward knows, that's why he hugs instead of punching and why he doesn't want to fight anymore.
                  Lol

                  And in religious terms calling oneself "Son of God" is actually blasphemous.

                  The term "Son of Man " is used throughout the old testament to specify the mortal nature of men, even prophets , as opposed to the "Son of God", the anointed, the Messiah.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                    So I take it you believe you're not one of the majority of religious hypocrites?

                    That perhaps you're somehow better than the atheists?

                    Even those of contrary or alternative faiths and upbringings who have every claim to be just as sincere in their personal beliefs as you yourself are?

                    You even claim to have insight in how your God will judge the rest of us.

                    Kinda prideful isn't it... doesn't the bible have something to say about pride?

                    And a 'just in case' policy? That would make one hypocritical towards both one's own personal beliefs and the ones you espouse - a flaw you've already condemned as being worse than a simple lack of Christian devoutness.
                    Brother, I am not Christ like. I am a man, just as you. But my journey of faith has taken me through realizations you may have missed, so hearken me if you will.

                    I am a fighter. Pride is an issue for all men, especially those who have fought., this why I feel obvious miracles are few and far between. Our Lord reads our hearts and know when we seek to glorify Him and when we seek to glorify OURSELVES. I seek to be a humble servant, but it is a hard road.

                    Having said that, God grants insight to those who open their heart to him and ASK. Don't believe me? Consult the living Word:

                    "mat 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:... "

                    Pitfalls of pride are obvious to watch out for, but God grants insight to those who ask, if it is good under His eyes. An inquisitive guy like me has a lot of questions, so, I ask. It is possible for people to be led by their own spirit, or evil influence, when trying this, so it is important to cross reference everything through the Living Word (bible) and filter it through the chambers of your heart to determine what is indeed good to pass on, and what should be rebuked.

                    Don't believe my realization on different views of eternity? Consult the Living Word once again:

                    2 peter 3:8 "But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day***8221;

                    The Holy Spirit guided me to this passage, and others like it, to validate how eternity has different definitions from man to God.

                    I am not saying believe just in case. That belief would be worthless. I am saying don't blasphemy the Holy Spirit just in case. Even non believers should adhere to that, by their own sets of logic. I wouldn't blasphemy the Holy Spirit, because I love my Lord and Savior.... But non believers should refrain from doing so out of prudence at the very least!

                    Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
                    This one always makes me laugh. We live in a country where on every corner is a church, and it's you who is under attack? LOL

                    Maybe you should look towards the teachings of Christ and understand that HUMILITY is important and the reason you are being met with anger is because of your arrogance telling people what they feel.

                    That's only one interpretation of Christianity, there's millions of people in the world that believe in the same book you do that disagree with you. You aren't stating facts, just making pronouncements about your specific version of Christianity which millions of Christians would disagree with.

                    Who says Atheists don't believe in consequences? Of course there are consequences, it's just not to your made up god. We are accountable to 7 billion people on this planet, and the way we treat each other has a direct consequence in our lives and in the standard of our community.

                    Ahhh, Pascal's Wager....lol

                    Can you come up with anything original? Pascal's Wager is not only absurd, it's immoral to the teachings of your own belief system. Belief isn't something we choose, it comes from what we know or think we know. Knowledge is a subset of belief, so I can't just convince myself to believe in something I think isn't true.

                    I can hold a gun to your head and tell you that the sky is red, but you can't believe that because you know the sky is blue.

                    Also falsely believing is the very thing you just condemned, isn't it? LOL

                    "Let me make believe I believe just in case I go to some make believe hell", yea...no thanks.
                    Weekenders only hear interpretations of their priests. And only choice tidbits that their eyes often glaze over while listening to. You have to study the Living Word for yourself, not be told by another man what it means. Observing the sabbath in Church is useful for fostering brotherhood, as Jesus commanded, but as for becoming strong in faith, that is done through a lot of private prayer and meditation, and studying the Living Word as a dedicated scholar would. Soak up everything.

                    Aside from weekenders, a sort of mild brand of hypocrite, we have severe hypocrites. People that use people's faith to make money when in their hearts they themselves do not believe, and others that do even more unspeakable evil in the name of God. The crusades, for instance, Jesus would not have condoned. Witch burnings as well. Jesus did not condemn anyone to death, he cast demons out of people, he didn't burn them at the stake!

                    I am not saying believe just in case, I am saying don't blasphemy the Holy spirit just in case. For it is written that The Lord particularly detests when people do that.

                    As to non believers, I believe The Lord is SOMEWHAT satisfied with people who live the narrow path without even knowing it. Hearken to Romans if you will, Brother:

                    "Rom 2:14. For when Gentiles (Romans, you), who do not have the (God's) law, by nature do things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel."

                    This indicates men are judged by works and merit, as well as God's law..

                    Brother, I believe, and have been guided to the position that this doctrine of fear that was so stressed by our Church fathers was overused. After all a man that goes into battle with you because he fears you will turn from you at first opportunity. However, a man that goes into battle with you because he LOVES you will lay down his life for you. The way to gain true and faithful followers is through love, not fear.

                    One last word I have for you, Brother. Jesus preached a slightly harder line in His ministry, but I would implore you to examine the crucifixion itself. These men were beating Him, spitting on Him, scourging Him, and crucifying Him, and He did not once curse His enemies to damnation. His words to the Father were thus: "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do"

                    If He did not damn non believers that were torturing Him, what effect do you think your words have on God? He did not damn someone who shoved a crown of thorns on His head, or someone who afflicted Him with a whip adorned with thorns, or someone who nailed through His feet and hands, yet you find it accurate He will damn a non believer that spits on His name?

                    Hateful, grateful, or ignorant, the Son interceded for ALL. God's love for each and every one of us is unimaginable, Brother.

                    If you ever come to The Lord.... Do not come out of fear! Approach Him in love, as He loves you! Hosanna, hallelujah! Selah, and AMEN!

                    Originally posted by HanzGruber
                    Lol I'm sure atheists and agnostics are just as "full" as you. But whatever helps you sleep at night I guess
                    Perhaps I was harsh. I merely mean that there is a spiritual potential in all of us that is very enriching when cultivated. And there is no limit to it, the rabbit hole goes as deep as you dare, if the Lord is willing.



                    Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
                    Oh thank you and I implore you to do the same, worshiping 3 gods is not what the great spirit wants from you.

                    Reject the false religion of Christianity and accept Jainism as a path for peace and eternal happiness.
                    Ah. One final truth for you then. The trinity is One. One is the trinity.

                    Peace be with you.
                    Last edited by Syf; 08-29-2014, 01:58 AM.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Syf
                      Brother, I am not Christ like. I am a man, just as you. But my journey of faith has taken me through realizations you may have missed, so hearken me if you will.

                      I am a fighter. Pride is an issue for all men, especially those who have fought., this why I feel obvious miracles are few and far between. Our Lord reads our hearts and know when we seek to glorify Him and when we seek to glorify OURSELVES. I seek to be a humble servant, but it is a hard road.

                      Having said that, God grants insight to those who open their heart to him and ASK. Don't believe me? Consult the living Word:

                      "mat 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:... "

                      Pitfalls of pride are obvious to watch out for, but God grants insight to those who ask, if it is good under His eyes. An inquisitive guy like me has a lot of questions, so, I ask. It is possible for people to be led by their own spirit, or evil influence, when trying this, so it is important to cross reference everything through the Living Word (bible) and filter it through the chambers of your heart to determine what is indeed good to pass on, and what should be rebuked.

                      Don't believe my realization on different views of eternity? Consult the Living Word once again:

                      2 peter 3:8 "But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day***8221;

                      The Holy Spirit guided me to this passage, and others like it, to validate how eternity has different definitions from man to God.

                      I am not saying believe just in case. That belief would be worthless. I am saying don't blasphemy the Holy Spirit just in case. Even non believers should adhere to that, by their own sets of logic. I wouldn't blasphemy the Holy Spirit, because I love my Lord and Savior.... But non believers should refrain from doing so out of prudence at the very least!



                      Weekenders only hear interpretations of their priests. And only choice tidbits that their eyes often glaze over while listening to. You have to study the Living Word for yourself, not be told by another man what it means. Observing the sabbath in Church is useful for fostering brotherhood, as Jesus commanded, but as for becoming strong in faith, that is done through a lot of private prayer and meditation, and studying the Living Word as a dedicated scholar would. Soak up everything.

                      Aside from weekenders, a sort of mild brand of hypocrite, we have severe hypocrites. People that use people's faith to make money when in their hearts they themselves do not believe, and others that do even more unspeakable evil in the name of God. The crusades, for instance, Jesus would not have condoned. Witch burnings as well. Jesus did not condemn anyone to death, he cast demons out of people, he didn't burn them at the stake!

                      I am not saying believe just in case, I am saying don't blasphemy the Holy spirit just in case. For it is written that The Lord particularly detests when people do that.

                      As to non believers, I believe The Lord is SOMEWHAT satisfied with people who live the narrow path without even knowing it. Hearken to Romans if you will, Brother:

                      "Rom 2:14. For when Gentiles (Romans, you), who do not have the (God's) law, by nature do things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15 who show the work of law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel."

                      This indicates men are judged by works and merit, as well as God's law..

                      Brother, I believe, and have been guided to the position that this doctrine of fear that was so stressed by our Church fathers was overused. After all a man that goes into battle with you because he fears you will turn from you at first opportunity. However, a man that goes into battle with you because he LOVES you will lay down his life for you. The way to gain true and faithful followers is through love, not fear.

                      One last word I have for you, Brother. Jesus preached a slightly harder line in His ministry, but I would implore you to examine the crucifixion itself. These men were beating Him, spitting on Him, scourging Him, and crucifying Him, and He did not once curse His enemies to damnation. His words to the Father were thus: "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do"

                      If He did not damn non believers that were torturing Him, what effect do you think your words have on God? He did not damn someone who shoved a crown of thorns on His head, or someone who afflicted Him with a whip adorned with thorns, or someone who nailed through His feet and hands, yet you find it accurate He will damn a non believer that spits on His name?

                      Hateful, grateful, or ignorant, the Son interceded for ALL. God's love for each and every one of us is unimaginable, Brother.

                      If you ever come to The Lord.... Do not come out of fear! Approach Him in love, as He loves you! Hosanna, hallelujah! Selah, and AMEN!



                      Perhaps I was harsh. I merely mean that there is a spiritual potential in all of us that is very enriching when cultivated. And there is no limit to it, the rabbit hole goes as deep as you dare, if the Lord is willing.





                      Ah. One final truth for you then. The trinity is One. One is the trinity.

                      Peace be with you.
                      I got ******** by a priest in catholic school when I was a kid #TouchedByGod

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