Comments Thread For: Team Porter Upset: Kell Brook Was Holding Too Much

[hectari]

I saw nothing wrong with what Brook did, Porter fought charging forward head first trynig to do his basic smothering overpower his opponent crap to wear the down, and he cut brook with his head and tried to keep reopen it many times with his head again, it backfired and Shawn got a worse cut. The way to stop a guy from wearing you down who fights wild like that with no sill or punching technique is to clinch them and tie them up and wear them down show them you are just as strong if not stronger.
Brook owned Porter in the strength department.

[MDPopescu]

I saw nothing wrong with what Brook did, Porter fought charging forward head first trynig to do his basic smothering overpower his opponent crap to wear the down, and he cut brook with his head and tried to keep reopen it many times with his head again, it backfired and Shawn got a worse cut. The way to stop a guy from wearing you down who fights wild like that with no sill or punching technique is to clinch them and tie them up and wear them down show them you are just as strong if not stronger.
Brook owned Porter in the strength department.

... And this is supposed to be boxing, and not wrestling. Right?

[brettWall]

porter only started holding late in the fight when he was tired. brook came out in round 1 clinching every time porter was close. the rabbit punches were because brook was holding him nonstop. that's what happens. he could have just stood there and let himself be clinched. that would have won him in the fight...

Brook was encouraged to make clinching his main defense tactic when the ref was doing nothing to stop it. What a crappy way to win a fight. Two against one.

[Ryn0]

I don't know if they had a punchzone stat but I'd say the majority of punches landed by Porter landed either behind the head or in Kell Brooks kidney area round the back.

[MDPopescu]

I don't know if they had a punchzone stat but I'd say the majority of punches landed by Porter landed either behind the head or in Kell Brooks kidney area round the back.

Precisely.
These because Porter's hands were tied up by clinches and could not reach Brook's front parts of the body.

[hectari]

... And this is supposed to be boxing, and not wrestling. Right?

I despise clinchers, but Brook had no choice dude, porter was fighting so dirty and rough with a gang of rabbit punches, Porter initiated a lot of the clinches early he wanted Kell to tie up with him so he can show Kell he was the stronger man and it backfired, watch the fight several times Porter tried to hip toss Kell but he couldn't move him lol, Porter was like damn this mu****er is stronger than me.

Brook is rock solid he has a solid build lean hard muscle with big legs and calves, Porter is not really strong he had those flabby water muscles and small legs, he can only overpower smaller men, and this is the reason why he cut down from 160 to 154 and than 147, and they were even thinking about going down as far as 140 lol, his father knew his son has no chance against guys his size so they tried to use the size advantage tactic and it backfired here, against a naturally bigger and stronger foe.

[LacedUp]

The fact that they're commentators isn't the issue. The fact that Brook was holding is the issue. If he wasn't doing it they wouldn't have had anything to comment about. So the truth is good from a commentators mouth because that's his job but it's bullcrap from Kenny Porter because his son just lost a fight where he feels that he was treated unfairly. That's the definition of a double standard. And Kell Brook having stitches doesn't prove that Porter was bull rushing with his head. Porter got cut by a clash of heads himself. Does that prove that Kell Brook was bull rushing? No. And Brook's cut happened when there heads collided in the clinch not as a result of Porter bull rushing. So you need to find a different example. The rabbit punches were accidental and all occurred as a result of the clinch. They had absolutely no effect on the outcome of the fight and Brook's clinching was a part of his gameplan and had a definite effect on the outcome of the fight. So in this instance the excessive clinching was most definitely the greater evil in comparison to Porter trying to get his arms free and throwing some shots that strayed to the back of Brook's head.

Wow, you just went full ******

That's me out.

[Ryn0]

Precisely.
These because Porter's hands were tied up by clinches and could not reach Brook's front parts of the body.

Porters problem, Porter doesn't punch his way inside at all or move his head like a good inside fighter he charges forward with his face literally facing the floor. Which is why there were cuts and it why there have been cuts in so many of his previous fights.

Brooks ties him up to prevent that, Porter was poor really poor. He needs to shorten his punches, they are so wide. If he shortened his hooks he could have done better work on the inside. It was in Porters interest to make it an 'ugly' fight or atleast you would have said so before the fight, since Brook is a slick fighter but Porter in clinches was also getting worked backwards. He doesn't know how to work with a free hand on the inside.

Porter doesn't know how to defend when he is outside either. Brook will not be the first to tie Porter up when he comes inside now people know he doesn't know how to fight in the clinches and work his way inside effectively at mid range.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Porter not being your traditional inside fighter utilizes holding to create it, Brook simply leaned into him and played along which was smart. Porter responded to that by exerting way too much energy trying to create room, which only amounted to making Brook's work a lot easier. Maidana did the same to Mayweather as well, Mayweather clinched to create infighting, Maidana played along by leaning into him.

[hectari]

Anyone who says porters rabbit punches were accidental need to stop posting, there is nothing accident about his style, his father knew his son has no boxing skills so they finally found a way to win and it was by going down in weight and having a size advantage and using rough house aggression tactics. including rabbit punching, forearms, pushing, grappling, head butting, just making the fight dirty and ugly and wear down his opponents.

Porter can't box, when he tried to box he looked like crap, didn't he look crappy against Julio Diaz? His only way of winning is to out muscle a guy and throw punches similar to Sakio Bika.