who is the number 1 super middleweight in the word-FROCH OR WARD

[BattlingNelson]

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[RightJab]

LMFDO @ some posters in this thread, a couple from each side of the fence, froch and ward fans. You'd think some of you are related to them, its just a ***in sport mo***ers, if what people say get to you that much just ignore/log out and rethink some basic principles about life.

You think they (the two fighters in question) care much at all for what you say about them (whether its positive or negative). The money they're respectively on, the world they live in, if i was in their shoes (or gloves har har har) i wouldn't care how many supportive/negative things said about me.

You'd think some of you pray they read what you write about them, wish that they where gripping on every word you type (again on both sides). Some people need a few xanax and *** off for a few days, SAD.

Theres discussion then theres repeated rambling on and repeating yourselves over the months/years. Obviously with Pac-Floyd being the worst case. Makes me wonder whom are the real morons, casual fans or 'us' as in fans whom claim/do know their stuff. I voted Froch because of each fighters activity/opponents over the last 3 years then i'm biased cos' i'm a Limey, there straight forward.

But text-book/skill set wise, of course Ward is better, almost wizard like how he operates i respect that and think some of the things he does in the ring fights and sparring footage are unreal, no otherworldly (lol)..... And he's had promotional issues he cannot help.

But equally Froch is just a through and through fighter, he will fight anyone, he's fuppin fought everyone worth fighting pretty much. So *** if Groves decked Froch, he still lost to Froch twice in the end, Taylor decked him, he still got ktfo, its boxing and sometimes you walk on to something nasty in this game in case people have forgot.

Again, who are the casual 'duh' fans and who are the 'educated' ones.....Its becoming harder to distinguish between the two over time i've noticed (well in only a handful of posters cases). Serious, xanax, *** off for a while. Never known some men on here be so obsessed over another man. Sad. But yeah LMFDO at a handful of you, like women whining over a man.

[New England]

LMFDO @ some posters in this thread, a couple from each side of the fence, froch and ward fans. You'd think some of you are related to them, its just a ***in sport mo***ers, if what people say get to you that much just ignore/log out and rethink some basic principles about life.

You think they (the two fighters in question) care much at all for what you say about them (whether its positive or negative). The money they're respectively on, the world they live in, if i was in their shoes (or gloves har har har) i wouldn't care how many supportive/negative things said about me.

You'd think some of you pray they read what you write about them, wish that they where gripping on every word you type (again on both sides). Some people need a few xanax and *** off for a few days, SAD.

Theres discussion then theres repeated rambling on and repeating yourselves over the months/years. Obviously with Pac-Floyd being the worst case. Makes me wonder whom are the real morons, casual fans or 'us' as in fans whom claim/do know their stuff. I voted Froch because of each fighters activity/opponents over the last 3 years then i'm biased cos' i'm a Limey, there straight forward.

But text-book/skill set wise, of course Ward is better, almost wizard like how he operates i respect that and think some of the things he does in the ring fights and sparring footage are unreal, no otherworldly (lol)..... And he's had promotional issues he cannot help.

But equally Froch is just a through and through fighter, he will fight anyone, he's fuppin fought everyone worth fighting pretty much. So *** if Groves decked Froch, he still lost to Froch twice in the end, Taylor decked him, he still got ktfo, its boxing and sometimes you walk on to something nasty in this game in case people have forgot.

Again, who are the casual 'duh' fans and who are the 'educated' ones.....Its becoming harder to distinguish between the two over time i've noticed (well in only a handful of posters cases). Serious, xanax, *** off for a while. Never known some men on here be so obsessed over another man. Sad. But yeah LMFDO at a handful of you, like women whining over a man.

"i don't actually follow boxing, so i find those that do intimidating."


froch will not "fight anybody." he is ducking golovkin and ward. he has said so himself. i don't blame him. ward whitewashes him worst than the first fight, and golovkin ends his freaking career. golovkin might even end his life. this is boxing. you can die in there.


brits rail the prince for not going to 175, yet froch recieves zero heat for it. he's praised for fighting fringe contenders at best, while ward is crucified for the same tier of fighter.


andre ward has no fanboys. we're just a loosely assembled crew of boxing afficionados who know a great boxer when we see one. we're scrappy underdogs. a dog loves a bone. there's nothing i can do to make me stop loving great fighters.

carl froch is very good
andre ward is great.

there's a huge difference between the two.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

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as far as i can tell, the most popular fighter with british casuals of all time is still henry cooper. that's generally who the pundits credit as the most popular.

"our 'enry."

the groves - froch fight was the biggest in british history, depending on how you judge "bigness."



ricky hatton was more popular than any of the darker complexioned brothers you mentioned, and he didn't even have a real british nemesis. eubank had benn, and lewis had bruno, which contributed to the popularity of their fights against each other.



it's well known that the brits love them a nice white limey. just embrace it, bro.

NE would have preferred his mother got ****d by a black man than have his own father have consensual sex with her if it meant he could have been born black.

[DARKSEID]

"i don't actually follow boxing, so i find those that do intimidating."


froch will not "fight anybody." he is ducking golovkin and ward. he has said so himself. i don't blame him. ward whitewashes him worst than the first fight, and golovkin ends his freaking career. golovkin might even end his life. this is boxing. you can die in there.


brits rail the prince for not going to 175, yet froch recieves zero heat for it. he's praised for fighting fringe contenders at best, while ward is crucified for the same tier of fighter.


andre ward has no fanboys. we're just a loosely assembled crew of boxing afficionados who know a great boxer when we see one. we're scrappy underdogs. a dog loves a bone. there's nothing i can do to make me stop loving great fighters.

carl froch is very good
andre ward is great.

there's a huge difference between the two.

Why the hell would Froch duck Golovkin lol

He's faced better fighters than him and I would put all my money on Froch to win.

[The Big Dunn]

andre ward has no fanboys. we're just a loosely assembled crew of boxing afficionados who know a great boxer when we see one. we're scrappy underdogs. a dog loves a bone. there's nothing i can do to make me stop loving great fighters.

carl froch is very good
andre ward is great.

there's a huge difference between the two.

couldn't agree more with the above.

[LacedUp]

andre ward has no fanboys. we're just a loosely assembled crew of boxing afficionados who know a great boxer when we see one. we're scrappy underdogs. a dog loves a bone. there's nothing i can do to make me stop loving great fighters.

carl froch is very good
andre ward is great.

there's a huge difference between the two.

What are you then?

Andre Ward might have great skills, but as soon as he's gone not many will miss him. They'll miss Froch.

And that's the main difference.

[The Tase]

froch would tell you himself andre ward. that being said, ward needs to start fighting again otherwise he should just retire. dude is taking up p4p rankings just based on reputation alone instead of work.

[shade darkar]

it doesnt matter who froch fights or if he fights 10 times whilst ward sits on his arse. ward beat froch convincingly and until froch beats ward, or ward retires, ward will be rated the best at 168.

[The Big Dunn]

What are you then?

Andre Ward might have great skills, but as soon as he's gone not many will miss him. They'll miss Froch.

And that's the main difference.

Huh? what is this lately with using the completely unable to prove theory of "they will miss him when he's gone"? When did Carl Froch transcend the sport such that his leaving will register?