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  • jas
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    #21
    Lol did you see the card yesterday they literally changed an 8 rounder to a six rounder during the fight to benefit a fighter lol

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    • John Locke
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      #22
      Originally posted by Clegg
      One good win in a lower weight class isn't enough. There are probably 10 or so more deserving, more proven guys at 147.
      Care to name some of those more deserving and proven guys? Are they realistic, available options?

      Originally posted by Lullaby
      Floyd is not fighting someone at ''catchweight'' with mere 8 KO'es coming off a ''Dodgy'' win, Maidana has over 85% KO ratio and put on a great performance in the first fight also is a Solid WW with power, also he gave Floyd massive trouble in the first fight.He deserved the rematch.

      and please don't try to compare Algeri with Maidana now, Maidana would probably Knock him out before 6 and Maidana would probably knocked Pac out too.

      Pac how ever could have fought Marquez,Khan,Guerrero,Alexander and a lot of other guys, this definitely is a cherry pick, Algeri doesn't possess anything which makes me think he can give Pac any sort of trouble Maidana atleast has KO power, the fact that this fight's happening in China makes things ever Worse for Algeri.

      Man the lack of knowledge on this forum is unreal sometimes. Maidana would be an easier fight than Algieri for Pac. Maidana is a face-first robot, he offers nothing Pacquiao hasn't seen and dealt with before. Pac would box his head off and win a comfortable, wide UD. Maidana has been beaten every time he's fought somebody who can box, but he would knock out the best fighter of this era? Okay...

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      • jas
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        #23
        here is someone who is more deserving and more intriguing fight

        but porter will never get to fight either



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        • John Locke
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          #24
          Originally posted by jas
          here is someone who is more deserving and more intriguing fight

          but porter will never get to fight either



          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhHmj...e3ZliHe4cyC06A
          Of course he's more deserving, but he's not a realistic option. Not for Pacquiao anyway. Are we gonna ignore the promotional/network barriers?

          He deserves a Floyd fight more than Maidana. His resume is already better than Maidana's despite only recently breaking into the scene.

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          • Xi_
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            #25
            Originally posted by Truth.
            Of course he's more deserving, but he's not a realistic option. Not for Pacquiao anyway. Are we gonna ignore the promotional/network barriers?

            He deserves a Floyd fight more than Maidana. His resume is already better than Maidana's despite only recently breaking into the scene.
            fu(k that network bs.....y'all idiots only use that excuse when it's convient. pac had plenty of options. this is a ***** fight and there is no way you can spin this.

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            • John Locke
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              #26
              Originally posted by Xi_
              fu(k that network bs.....y'all idiots only use that excuse when it's convient. pac had plenty of options. this is a ***** fight and there is no way you can spin this.
              It's not an excuse you donkey, it's facts. TR and HBO don't do business with GBP/Haymon/Showtime. For now anyway.

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                #27
                Originally posted by bojangles1987
                Algieri's potential to be competitive or even win are irrelevant to why this is a bad fight.

                Manny Pacquiao, #2 WW, arguably the #2 p4p fighter in the world and at least top 5, an ATG beyond question, is fighting a top 10 JWW who has one notable win, which is a questionable win at that. And it's a PPV fight.

                I agree that Algieri could make things difficult for Pacquiao. At the very least I expect Pac to give his haters plenty of ammunition by struggling. And I do like Algieri. But it's still not a good fight, at all. There are many fighters for whom Chris Algieri is a good fight to take. Pacquiao is not one of them.
                Based on what? What has this guy ever done that makes people think that he could cause one of the best fighters of this era to struggle? I'm not singling you out, but it's an open question. To my knowledge, I've seen three Algieri fights: Peralta, Taylor, and Provodnikov. From those alone I think he's in a world of trouble. Somewhere along the way a myth was born that Algieri is this master boxer, but I just don't see it. Peralta frequently beat him to the punch, touched him often exposing a leaky defense, and had him on shaky legs at times. He did his best work in outboxing Taylor, which at world level doesn't impress me much. And he had a tough fight with a one trick pony in Ruslan. I thought they fought to a draw but it is what it is, a good win.

                Nothing I've seen shows me that he's ready to face an offensive threat like Pacquiao, an explosive southpaw that's going to show him speed and angles that he's never encountered. The most experienced boxers have had issues dealing with it, so consider me skeptical that a guy with a kickboxing background will pass the test. Algieri has no power at 140, so I can't see him discouraging Pac at all at welter. I think he's going to Macau to be dismantled.

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                • Clegg
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Truth.
                  Care to name some of those more deserving and proven guys? Are they realistic, available options?
                  Problem here is that your thread title tries to argue that it's a good fight, but then when it's pointed out how far off elite Algieri is, how there are so many guys clearly better, you want to discuss the TR-GBP-Haymon situation. So straight away you give up on arguing that it's a good fight and switch to arguing that it's simply the best fight that could be made, which isn't the same thing. And as always Pacquiao doesn't rock the boat to try and get a better fight made but we've all just pretty much accepted that by now.

                  They could and should have gotten Marquez before turning to this. Overpay him if you have to, the guy laid you out on your face in front of the world, you can either go for revenge or face a guy who everyone knows has no chance against you, I guess we've seen what the decision was on that one.

                  Algieri is a bad fight because everyone knows he will lose. You are trying to defend the fight but even you don't think he's going to win. All you're saying is that Pacquiao won't look good. How do you see Algieri doing against the top 10 at 147?

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                  • John Locke
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Clegg
                    Problem here is that your thread title tries to argue that it's a good fight, but then when it's pointed out how far off elite Algieri is, how there are so many guys clearly better, you want to discuss the TR-GBP-Haymon situation. So straight away you give up on arguing that it's a good fight and switch to arguing that it's simply the best fight that could be made, which isn't the same thing. And as always Pacquiao doesn't rock the boat to try and get a better fight made but we've all just pretty much accepted that by now.

                    They could and should have gotten Marquez before turning to this. Overpay him if you have to, the guy laid you out on your face in front of the world, you can either go for revenge or face a guy who everyone knows has no chance against you, I guess we've seen what the decision was on that one.

                    Algieri is a bad fight because everyone knows he will lose. You are trying to defend the fight but even you don't think he's going to win. All you're saying is that Pacquiao won't look good. How do you see Algieri doing against the top 10 at 147?
                    You're saying there are more deserving fighters out there, I don't disagree with that, but those fights can't be made. That doesn't mean this isn't a good fight though.

                    We've seen him fight Marquez 4 times, plus Marquez is apparently not too keen on doing it again. And just because I think Pac will win it doesn't mean it's not a good fight and that Algieri can't win.

                    Algieri would do well against Marquez, Alexander and Maidana from the top 10. He'd beat at least one of them imo.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Truth.
                      It's not an excuse you donkey, it's facts. TR and HBO don't do business with GBP/Haymon/Showtime. For now anyway.
                      it's an excuse, you idiot......you dummies use networks and promoters when your favorite fighter wants to duck a fight.....but when it's a fighter you don't like, all that stuff goes out the window. the ww division is stacked......and the reason you see pac fighting rios' and algieri's is because he choose to cherrypick them.

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