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  • John Locke
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    Pac vs Algieri is a good fight

    I dunno why so many people are complaining about this fight, it's a good match up. Just because Algieri hasn't got a big name it doesn't mean he's not a good fighter, he's a skilled, crafty guy and not easy to look good against. He'll make Pac work for his win and he won't look good doing it.

    People wouldn't say a thing if Pac was fighting Provodnikov, I'll never understand why. Algieri has proven he's better than Provodnikov and is a stylistically tougher fight for Pac. Pac would shut Provodnikov out with ease, nobody in boxing is better at dealing with face-first robots like Provodnikov than Pac.

    Also bear in mind that Pac's options were limited, we've already seen him fight Marquez enough times, he just thought Bradley, Provodnikov is an easy fight, as is Abregu...who else is left?
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    the macau card yesterday :

    - they hada 8 round fight changed to a 6 rounder during the fight to benefit a fighter

    - referee for rigo fight made several horrific mistakes in a few seconds


    There is zero chance the judges in macau will score against pacquaio

    algeiri doesnt punch hard enough to knock pacquaio out


    the outcome is inevitable so whats the point of the fight

    to fight a guy like pacquaio you should have a deserving enough resume and algeiri does not

    its that simple

    but obviously you know best

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      #3
      It's a shit fight.

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      • jas
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        #4
        Originally posted by FeFist
        It's a shit fight.
        lol at your sig

        is he flushing the PEDs out of his system

        thats probably why he isnt fighting

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        • John Locke
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          #5
          Originally posted by jas
          the macau card yesterday :

          - they hada 8 round fight changed to a 6 rounder during the fight to benefit a fighter

          - referee for rigo fight made several horrific mistakes in a few seconds


          There is zero chance the judges in macau will score against pacquaio

          algeiri doesnt punch hard enough to knock pacquaio out


          the outcome is inevitable so whats the point of the fight

          to fight a guy like pacquaio you should have a deserving enough resume and algeiri does not

          its that simple

          but obviously you know best
          Half of the points you made have absolutely nothing to do with my post...

          So what if Algieri can't knock Pac out lol? There's more to boxing than power. Weren't you absolutely 100% sure that Provodnikov would beat Algieri? How did that go?

          Who would you liked to have seen Pac fight?

          Originally posted by FeFist
          It's a shit fight.
          Cheers man, that clears things up.

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          • bojangles1987
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            Algieri's potential to be competitive or even win are irrelevant to why this is a bad fight.

            Manny Pacquiao, #2 WW, arguably the #2 p4p fighter in the world and at least top 5, an ATG beyond question, is fighting a top 10 JWW who has one notable win, which is a questionable win at that. And it's a PPV fight.

            I agree that Algieri could make things difficult for Pacquiao. At the very least I expect Pac to give his haters plenty of ammunition by struggling. And I do like Algieri. But it's still not a good fight, at all. There are many fighters for whom Chris Algieri is a good fight to take. Pacquiao is not one of them.

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            • jas
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              one of boxingscene's biggest pacquaio fans sums it up best

              by the way OP i know you are new to boxing because you asked why hopkins used to cross his arms to show an X symbol so hopefully other posters can improve your knowledge and understanding

              Originally posted by PAC-BOY
              Wake the *** up. Do some home work. Resume speaks for itself. All fought in home town...In his long 6yr pro career. Oh and his opponents boxing records reflect what it was up to fighting him. All look significantly worst now. Except Ruslan. Anyone that thinks this is a good fight needs medication.

              :WORD: 13 of his 20 were coming off a loss or multiple losses!


              *Ruslan Provodnikov 23-2-0
              Emmanuel Taylor 17-1-0
              Wilfredo Acuna 14-12-0 - Coming off 5 losses in a row
              Mike Arnaoutis 24-8-2- coming off a loss
              Jose Peralta Alejo 10-1-0
              Winston Mathis 7-4-1- coming off loss
              Curtis Smith 10-5-0 - coming off loss
              Bayan Jargal 15-2-3 - coming off 2 losses
              Julias Edmonds 7-10-0 - coming off 4 losses
              James Hope 4-3-0 - coming off 2 losses
              Edward Valdez 3-6-2 - coming off 4 losses
              Jose L Guzman 5-4-1
              Henry White Jr 3-2-1
              Eric Rodriguez 4-3-0 -coming off 2 losses
              Jason Jordan 6-27-4 - coming off 2 losses
              Clarence Smith 0-1-0- coming off loss (only fought twice in life)
              Rakeem Carter 0-3-3 - coming off 3 losses
              Jeradiael Figueroa 1-0-0
              Ken Dunham 3-4-0 - coming off 3 losses

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              • jas
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                #8
                Originally posted by bojangles1987
                Algieri's potential to be competitive or even win are irrelevant to why this is a bad fight.

                Manny Pacquiao, #2 WW, arguably the #2 p4p fighter in the world and at least top 5, an ATG beyond question, is fighting a top 10 JWW who has one notable win, which is a questionable win at that. And it's a PPV fight.

                I agree that Algieri could make things difficult for Pacquiao. At the very least I expect Pac to give his haters plenty of ammunition by struggling. And I do like Algieri. But it's still not a good fight, at all. There are many fighters for whom Chris Algieri is a good fight to take. Pacquiao is not one of them.
                true but algieri never wins

                that makes it even worse

                theres no way they score against pacquaio in macau lol, no way at all

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                • John Locke
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987
                  Algieri's potential to be competitive or even win are irrelevant to why this is a bad fight.

                  Manny Pacquiao, #2 WW, arguably the #2 p4p fighter in the world and at least top 5, an ATG beyond question, is fighting a top 10 JWW who has one notable win, which is a questionable win at that. And it's a PPV fight.

                  I agree that Algieri could make things difficult for Pacquiao. At the very least I expect Pac to give his haters plenty of ammunition by struggling. And I do like Algieri. But it's still not a good fight, at all. There are many fighters for whom Chris Algieri is a good fight to take. Pacquiao is not one of them.
                  Thanks for the reasonable response.

                  Algieri obviously hasn't 'earned' his shot at Pac, but people look too much into that stuff imo. I care about how competitive the fight is gonna be, not whether or not somebody has earned his shot.

                  Like I said, Pac didn't have many options. In an ideal world I'd have liked to have seen him fight the likes of Thurman, Porter, Khan etc...

                  Originally posted by jas
                  one of boxingscene's biggest pacquaio fans sums it up best

                  by the way OP i know you are new to boxing because you asked why hopkins used to cross his arms to show an X symbol so hopefully other posters can improve your knowledge and understanding
                  Oh a Pacquiao fan doesn't like the fight. That's that then. His word is final.

                  And I already addressed the Hopkins thing, he's not the only fighter who does the 'X' sign, that's why I asked.

                  Although again, I'm not sure how that's relevant to this thread?

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                  • jas
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Truth.
                    Thanks for the reasonable response.

                    Algieri obviously hasn't 'earned' his shot at Pac, but people look too much into that stuff imo. I care about how competitive the fight is gonna be, not whether or not somebody has earned his shot.

                    Like I said, Pac didn't have many options. In an ideal world I'd have liked to have seen him fight the likes of Thurman, Porter, Khan etc...



                    Oh a Pacquiao fan doesn't like the fight. That's that then. His word is final.

                    And I already addressed the Hopkins thing, he's not the only fighter who does the 'X' sign, that's why I asked.

                    Although again, I'm not sure how that's relevant to this thread?
                    a lot of pacquaio fans dont like this fight


                    its not dissapointment towards algeiri, the guys story is amazing - he started kickboxing, turned to boxing for more money, got 15k last year vs taylor then 150k vs ruslan and now 1.5mil vs pacquaio

                    the guy showed heart and confidence in his style and skills vs ruslan despite never fighting a guy of that calibre in the boxing ring before

                    its mostly bob arum and roach which the criticism should be directed to

                    arum gives the options, roach chooses the opponent, pacquaio does whatever roach tells him to do


                    - you agree algeiri does not deserve the fight given his resume
                    - there is no way he gets a decision in macau and he cant knock pacquaio out

                    so what is the point of the fight lol

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