Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[Fury4daWIN]

They act like Fury's win over Klitschko was huge.. he barely did enough to win. The worst heavyweight fight I've ever seen, so much hugging from BOTH GUYS. One was running like a coward all night, the other was hiding his fists all night.

It was a HUGE win, not just in terms of who he beat but how he did it. He comprehensively outpointed a man many believed was impossible to outbox and did it in his own 'hometown' with everyone and their mother against him. If you don't think that's a huge win, I'd like to see what is. Certainly nothing on Wilder's resume comes close.

I'm not going to deny that Wilder is protected very well, but he even knows he can beat Fury LOL. His team wants this fight, they can see Fury's pathetic flaws.

Ridiculous.

Jonty's one of the most flawed 'top-level' fighters in the sport. Whatever flaws Fury possesses (and I don't claim that he's flawless) are dwarfed in comparison to that malcoordinated idiot. Even if Jonty's team identified any exploitable flaws in Fury's game, do you honestly think a numpty like Wilder would be able to capitalise on them? While protecting his own?

Ridiculous.

[billeau2]

Fury had a plan and followed it. The only real painful deviation was a point deduction. His father got upset about that because it reaked of trying to steal the fight...

So when people talk about Fury barely doing this and that, its illogical. Fury did exactly what he had to to win the rounds and to neutralize Vlad. Vlad was so neutralized he resorted to head butting, in addition to other shenanigans before the fight...but the headbutt was flagrant and more dangerous that Fury's foul.

Tyson was not trying to risk anything when he didn't have to because, boxing is a sport, you are trying to win the rounds. One can see how Vlad is countered with the low hand to stop him from wanting to throw tha jab. One can see Vlad trying to set and and Fury feinting and every third or so time of it hitting with the jab. Fury obviously won the rounds.

Also, Fury is a counterpuncher. His crispest shot is the overhand over the jab and he needed Vlad to throw to use this which he did on several occasions.

Its not true that this fight was close and its not true that Fury squeaked by. not that I can see. But, there are three judges for a reason, and maybe others see it differently.

[Weltschmerz]

You call that giving credit to someone?

Like I said, pathetic.

Why are you so angry? Your hero won

Enjoy it while it lasts.

[billeau2]

LoL @ these people crying and wondering why Wlad gets critiqued and in the very next post they go onto declare him as the Greatest of all Time. After losing a fight one sided no less.

Maybe its possible that Wlad created all his own criticism for years of unsportsmanlike behaviour.
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Slave contracts
Constant illegal grappling and mauling
Clinch riddled foul infested fights
Tampering with the ring canvas
Glove gate
Wearing pumps at the weight in
Pull outs
Corrupt refs.
Refusing pre fights drug testing.

Then you have the fanboi's
Greatest jab of all time.
Greatest of all time- Both in H2H and Resume
Unstoppable left hook.
Has the best run of opponents in history.
Chambers and Peter would be top dogs in any era
Wach is better than Fury. (posted in this very thread)
Wlad is a better 15 round fighter
The madness goes on and on. They are the perpetrators of his own unpopularity but are too ****** to see that far ahead.

Lets look at some of these points a bit more clearly:

Regarding contracts. The Klitskos are well mannered and Bronte looks like a ceo, so people assume legitimacy...most people cannot see beyond the way one appears. I knew a sociopath who married one of my cousins who dressed very well, was not even well educated but managed to talk two companies into a scam investing in something he claimed to be able to produce. he finally went to prison but he pulled that wool!

In reality Bronte and the klits have always taken advantage and made every contingency they could to guarantee their success. this even includes fighting the mandatory when it looked good (the postman remember anyone?) and not fighting the up and commers. Many opponents have stated this information it is not my own opinion.

Vlad's clinching. lets boil this down to the fat. When Lewis was defeated he went right back and showed it was an exception. Vlad avoided any fighter with a good punch and good mobility indefinitely, or until they were a shell of themselves. Sanders was never approached for a rematch and brewster, who was never that great, was fought when he was no threat. Vlad fighting Peter showed his approach via Stewart, to hold on for dear life. Stewart taught him how to clinch that hurts me to say it but its the most important thing that he did because we see Vlad do that.

Sanders was a relatively mobile, hard punching southpaw. Fury has mobility and can fight as a southpaw....Nuff said.

On the shenanigans: Well...this last fight with all the things, the ring, gloves, etc and what others have said in the past make it hard to think the fury fight was a coincidence.

Vlad gases easily, he would never last fifteen rounds against a man who can still move and punch after the 12th round. he has a great jab for sure and he has great power. He has ruled the roost in a downtime in the division against immobile opposition. He deserves some accolades for this achievment, though I personally think Vitalie was a better fighter. So I can understand the fans like of Vlad, but is behavoir has really been de****able when it comes to negotiations, and he is superficial.

Not all his fans are deluded. On the one hand are guys like Elroy who are totally ridiculous but then you have guys who admire his picture perfect punching form and his jab. He also is smart not to get hit for the sake of entertainment...The truth is he would pay for a lot of the clinching against guys who can fight inside, which is why he was so frustrated by Fury he launched into a headbutt.

[Fury4daWIN]

Why are you so angry? Your hero won

Enjoy it while it lasts.

Because you're claiming he only won by luck, which is completely disrespectful to Fury and misrepresentative of the fight. That and the nonsense about the twelfth round just makes you look like a sore loser.

Wlad got comprehensively beaten by the better man. There was no luck involved.

[Weltschmerz]

Because you're claiming he only won by luck, which is completely disrespectful to Fury and misrepresentative of the fight. That and the nonsense about the twelfth round just makes you look like a sore loser.

Wlad got comprehensively beaten by the better man. There was no luck involved.

No, I gave him his due credit too, if you look again.

Anyway, Fury won't be champ for long. The Steelhammer will tax that ass next time around.

[Fury4daWIN]

No, I gave him his due credit too, if you look again.

Anyway, Fury won't be champ for long. The Steelhammer will tax that ass next time around.

Regardless of what you might have said earlier in the thread, you're still saying Fury won by luck and would have been knocked out if the fight had gone on a few more rounds. That's almost as sad as when Haye fans said he would have knocked Wlad out if he hadn't injured his toe, only now the shoe's on the other foot (pardon the pun).

I admire your faith in Wlad winning the rematch, but I think you're deluding yourself with some of the things you're saying. I'll keep the box of tissues you just gave me on standby for after the fight. I don't think I'll be the one needing them.

[Weltschmerz]

Regardless of what you might have said earlier in the thread, you're still saying Fury won by luck and would have been knocked out if the fight had gone on a few more rounds. That's almost as sad as when Haye fans said he would have knocked Wlad out if he hadn't injured his toe, only now the shoe's on the other foot (pardon the pun).

I admire your faith in Wlad winning the rematch, but I think you're deluding yourself with some of the things you're saying. I'll keep the box of tissues you just gave me on standby for after the fight. I don't think I'll be the one needing them.

Nice try, there

I'm not deluding anything mate, just telling it like I see it. Acknowledge the Fury win, but think Vlad should have won under 'normal circumstances', if you like.

I'm not bitter or anything, I think this is a great win for Fury. I look forward to the rematch and will be hoping to go myself, be it Germany or London next spring/summer.

[Fury4daWIN]

Nice try, there

I'm not deluding anything mate, just telling it like I see it. Acknowledge the Fury win, but think Vlad should have won under 'normal circumstances', if you like.

I'm not bitter or anything, I think this is a great win for Fury. I look forward to the rematch and will be hoping to go myself, be it Germany or London next spring/summer.

Normal circumstances presumably being having everything Wlad's way, I take it?

Look, I wish Wlad and his supporters luck, and hope for a slightly more action packed fight second time round. But I just don't see there being any difference in the rematch.

Wlad didn't perform abnormally. His low punch output was clearly caused by Fury's tactics aided by his physical dimensions. Wlad was afraid to engage because of the possibility of what might occur if he did. He wasn't able to take risks because his whole latter stage career has been geared towards minimizing them at all costs. Fury knew this and capitalized on it, constantly keeping Wlad from feeling comfortable or settling into a groove. He'll do the same in the rematch, mark my words. Or if Wlad decides to throw a bit more caution to the wind Fury will match him on that front as well.

[Weltschmerz]

Normal circumstances presumably being having everything Wlad's way, I take it?

Look, I wish Wlad and his supporters luck, and hope for a slightly more action packed fight second time round. But I just don't see there being any difference in the rematch.

Wlad didn't perform abnormally. His low punch output was clearly caused by Fury's tactics aided by his physical dimensions. Wlad was afraid to engage because of the possibility of what might occur if he did. He wasn't able to take risks because his whole latter stage career has been geared towards minimizing them at all costs. Fury knew this and capitalized on it, constantly keeping Wlad from feeling comfortable or settling into a groove. He'll do the same in the rematch, mark my words. Or if Wlad decides to throw a bit more caution to the wind Fury will match him on that front as well.

Remains to be seen... We need rd 12 action, for 12 rds, not 1.