Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[LacedUp]

Next year will be the most important year of Wladimir Klitschko's career. It will define how people will be perceiving him years from now, after he's retired.

If he really cares about his legacy, and I believe he does, he's gonna have to reevaluate his career and change literally everything, from his coach to his fighting style.

Banks gotta go, I like the guy, but having a coach who's younger than you and is an active fighter in the same division you fight in is kind of laughable.

Klitschko needs to fight in the rematch, he needs to drop his safety first style, because it won't never work against Fury.

Many people forget about it, but pre Sanders KO, Wladimir Klitschko was an offensive machine. Well, he needs to come back to that, for this fight at least. He needs to understand that to get his titles back he will get hit hard and he might get knocked out.

He's always said that if he could get back in time and change anything he wouldn't do that. How fighter handles a loss is what defines them.

Can he get back and do this thing all over again? I believe he can.

The guy is an exceptional athlete and a fighter, don't write him off just yet.

Honestly, Wlad was a great champion. He cleaned up the division when it was much needed and put a real champion on top. He doesn't yet get enough credit for that, including from myself. But I appreciate 1 champion over 3-4 which was the case in the mid 2000s.

Now, what I will say might be cliche but it's true. You can't teach an old dog new tricks. Wlad is an old dog in this case - He's not going to go in there guns blazing etc. He's safety first, always has been, always will be.

I suspect he'll retire and I think that'll be a wise choice. He has nothing to prove at this stage imo.

A further loss to Fury, and make no mistake, he would lose and probably get stopped - would lower his estimation a lot.

With a wife who's depressed, a baby daughter, traveling all over the world, another 6 months training camp fighting someone you know you can't beat.. I don't know.

I don't think anyone could begrudge him retirement.

[LacedUp]

Be interesting to see who Fury will fight in his voluntary defense
Wilder?
Anthony Joshua?
David Haye?

I think deep down he wants Haye, yep still believe he wants Haye and it could be a very dangerous fight for him to take.

All of those guys would have to be mandatory to get a shot. Haye, I believe he'd just vacate the belt and that would be sweet to see. He'd fight Joshua and Wilder though for sure, but I suspect he hopes to fight the winner.

But right now, he wants a gimme fight in Manchester before a rematch with Wlad I think.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Has Battling Nelson posted again since that card?

[Zaroku]

No, no no!

Remember the day before the fight you asked Fury fans to tell you what they thought he had that could beat Wlad, and I wrote this:



And you scoffed at the second point:



Well you were wrong about that. You underestimated Fury's boxing skills, and you are doing it again.

It was Fury's movement, feints and footwork that confused Wlad and shut him out of the fight. And if they have a rematch, the same thing will happen again.

You got them good. I disliked fury until I heard him speak. Saw lots of interviews, then re-reviewed his body of work and I like him. His pre fight face off was amazing! I was laughing a Loy! Pre fight I bet with him, post fight I am celebrating with him. Green k

[LoadedWraps]

Has Battling Nelson posted again since that card?

[MisterPullman]

Good for the Fury fans, you were loyal to Fury since the beginning. You deserve all the credit, I honor boxing's new heavyweight champion :- )

Now my dream fight Wilder-Fury can happen

Make some point bets with me boys' I got Wilder>>>

[LacedUp]

Has Battling Nelson posted again since that card?

No I don't think so

[Machinist_X]

Jab: Fury (fury has won fights just using just the jab, chisora 2, johnson, 100% shut outs, also has range advantage)
Defense: Wlad (Overall he wins but thats because he hugs but i dont think it will work on fury)
ring generalship: Wlad (based on experience if fury wins the jab war which is very possible wlad will have to wrestle for control and back fury up)
ring IQ: Wlad
stamina: Fury (if trains right which he will, age on side)
heart: Fury (fight of his life, nothing to lose)
combination punching: Fury
adaptability: Fury (can go southpaw, fight inside)
power: Wlad (depends though)
experience: Wlad
work ethic: Wlad
chin: Fury (never lost, never been put to sleep)
better bodywork: Fury
more effective hooks: wlad

i think wlad needs to back fury up and make him panic get power shots in, if fury controls the centre of the ring with jab its his fight to win, i think furys boxing ability is under rated, he can switch stances, the furys can box calmly look at hughie fury as well, its aggressive pressure they dont like.

fury has good footwork regardless of what people say, wlad needs to catch fury slipping up, but would wlad risk fighting hyper agressive?

peter fury is tyson furys cus d'amato, when he fought cunningham, he wasnt allowed in the US, he had no coach, fury just went for ko, didnt follow a gameplan and wasnt hurt from the knockdown, and hes improved so if that does register you are a biased idiot

i think fury is going to try and outwork wlad, the question is if furys jabs can hurt wlad enough and what can fury bring, can he truly match wlad on world level when it gets tough? does he have more strength than wlad? if furys defense is on point, he boxes to gameplan and wlad dont get lucky i have fury to win

just re-read this, posted 8-8-2015

[Weltschmerz]

lol its kind of ironick...ever watch Banks fight? the man can't pull the trigger!!

If Vlad fights on (most likely he will) he should get rid of Banks. He can just have Vitali in his corner, much better.

[Machinist_X]

If Vlad fights on (most likely he will) he should get rid of Banks. He can just have Vitali in his corner, much better.

vitali said to wlad to land the left and fury knew it, fury said it on ifltv after the fight in the dressing room, and it wasnt effective so vitali give wlad **** advice that didnt work, also vitali isnt a trainer so thats both his advice sucking and him having a lack of training abilities.

in a perfect world he needs a tried and tested trainer, but can he change trainers that fast without a warmup fight? it would be extremely hard for him to just switch trainers to someone new.

banks is good copying and training wlad under the steward tactics against smaller guys or complete bums and they have been effective, against a taller guy who can move its been proven to completely be lacking, it will be very interesting to see how banks does with whyte against aj, if whyte fails or fails big time, i can imagine a large majority of the boxing public writing him off completely as a trainer.