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  • Clegg
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    #5831
    Yeah, I hope he freezes Haye out. I'm hoping Joshua goes through Haye by the end of next year.

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    • Szef
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      #5832
      Next year will be the most important year of Wladimir Klitschko's career. It will define how people will be perceiving him years from now, after he's retired.

      If he really cares about his legacy, and I believe he does, he's gonna have to reevaluate his career and change literally everything, from his coach to his fighting style.

      Banks gotta go, I like the guy, but having a coach who's younger than you and is an active fighter in the same division you fight in is kind of laughable.

      Klitschko needs to fight in the rematch, he needs to drop his safety first style, because it won't never work against Fury.

      Many people forget about it, but pre Sanders KO, Wladimir Klitschko was an offensive machine. Well, he needs to come back to that, for this fight at least. He needs to understand that to get his titles back he will get hit hard and he might get knocked out.

      He's always said that if he could get back in time and change anything he wouldn't do that. How fighter handles a loss is what defines them.

      Can he get back and do this thing all over again? I believe he can.

      The guy is an exceptional athlete and a fighter, don't write him off just yet.
      Last edited by Szef; 11-29-2015, 03:59 PM.

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      • Simurgh
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        #5833
        Originally posted by Szef
        Next year will be the most important year of Wladimir Klitschko's career. It will define how people will be perceiving him years from now, after he's retired.

        If he really cares about his legacy, and I believe he does, he's gonna have to reevaluate his career and change literally everything, from his coach to his fighting style.

        Banks gotta go, I like the guy, but having a coach who's younger than you and is an active fighter in the same division you fight in is kind of laughable.

        Klitschko needs to fight in the rematch, he needs to drop his safety first style, because it won't never work against Fury.

        Many people forget about it, but pre Sanders KO, Wladimir Klitschko was an offensive machine. Well, he needs to come back to that, for this fight at least. He needs to understand that to get his titles back he will get hit hard and he might get knocked out.

        He's always said that if he could get back in time and change anything he wouldn't do that. How fighter handles a loss is what defines them.

        Can he get back and do this thing all over again? I believe he can.

        The guy is an exceptional athlete and a fighter, don't write him off just yet.
        Sign this. Green sent!

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          #5834
          Originally posted by Szef
          Next year will be the most important year of Wladimir Klitschko's career. It will define how people will be perceiving him years from now, after he's retired.

          If he really cares about his legacy, and I believe he does, he's gonna have to reevaluate his career and change literally everything, from his coach to his fighting style.

          Banks gotta go, I like the guy, but having a coach who's younger than you and is an active fighter in the same division you fight in is kind of laughable.

          Klitschko needs to fight in the rematch, he needs to drop his safety first style, because it won't never work against Fury.

          Many people forget about it, but pre Sanders KO, Wladimir Klitschko was an offensive machine. Well, he needs to come back to that, for this fight at least. He needs to understand that to get his titles back he will get hit hard and he might get knocked out.

          He's always said that if he could get back in time and change anything he wouldn't do that. How fighter handles a loss is what defines them.

          Can he get back and do this thing all over again? I believe he can.

          The guy is an exceptional athlete and a fighter, don't write him off just yet.
          Very nice post. This certainly affords him the opportunity to go some way towards redeeming himself, particularly in the eyes of people like myself who are critical of way that he conducts himself within the ring.

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          • yoz
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            #5835
            Originally posted by Szef
            Next year will be the most important year of Wladimir Klitschko's career. It will define how people will be perceiving him years from now, after he's retired.

            If he really cares about his legacy, and I believe he does, he's gonna have to reevaluate his career and change literally everything, from his coach to his fighting style.

            Banks gotta go, I like the guy, but having a coach who's younger than you and is an active fighter in the same division you fight in is kind of laughable.

            Klitschko needs to fight in the rematch, he needs to drop his safety first style, because it won't never work against Fury.

            Many people forget about it, but pre Sanders KO, Wladimir Klitschko was an offensive machine. Well, he needs to come back to that, for this fight at least. He needs to understand that to get his titles back he will get hit hard and he might get knocked out.

            He's always said that if he could get back in time and change anything he wouldn't do that. How fighter handles a loss is what defines them.

            Can he get back and do this thing all over again? I believe he can.

            The guy is an exceptional athlete and a fighter, don't write him off just yet.
            I agree that Banks needs to go, but I don't think he needs to change too much. What cost him last night was his reluctance to take a chance. He was overly tentative - because he couldn't land a double jab, he was reluctant to throw the straight right.

            It was a truly bizarre fight. It was soul destroying to see Wladimir in his corner from round 4 or 5. His team gave him nothing.

            That said, Fury did well. He did something I never thought I would see in this match up: he made Wladimir look befuddled and UNimpressive. Kudos.

            I look forward to the rematch.

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              #5836
              Originally posted by Elroy1
              Like the rep I've gained from certain circles, or should I say 'rings' wink wink around my way for the amount of times I've been arrested for masterbating outside the local school gates Wladimir Klitschko is a total lock in for GOAT and probably wont hae that status challenged for another century.

              Even if he retired right now or rematched Fury and lost again, there is no equal to the career of this guy, much like my second career packing external hard drives. I like to refer to myself as the simbros of indecent sexual images! Legend.

              Anyway, Lennox LEwis was 3/4 the way there which again has great parallels to my own life and times as I've only been able to get 3/4 of the way up after talking a knee to the gonads from a frisky pensioner I groped in the Age Concern up on Grafton Street. But enough about me . . .

              Lewis LOST vs Vitali in all but a technical sense. . . and if that doesn't make much sense I am only putting this together with one hand. The other's stoking the little Elrod into all of his 3/4 length raging semi-on magnificence.
              That's just wrong. I don't even know where to start.

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              • yoz
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                #5837
                Originally posted by Elroy1
                Wladimir Klitschko is a total lock in for GOAT and probably wont hae that status challenged for another century.

                Even if he retired right now or rematched Fury and lost again, there is no equal to the career of this guy.

                Lennox LEwis was 3/4 the way there.

                Lewis LOST vs Vitali in all but a technical sense.

                Lewis struggled badly with guys like MErcer etc, and was wasted by Rahman and McCall for exactly being lazy.

                The Lewis that showed up to fight Vitali was anything but lazy! He wasn't allowed to be.

                Wlad proved himself #1 several fights ago. If he rematches Fury and wins, he only continues to build his legacy.
                Wow, Elroy. Where to start! Maybe it's time for a nap?

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                  #5838
                  Originally posted by yoz
                  I agree that Banks needs to go, but I don't think he needs to change too much. What cost him last night was his reluctance to take a chance. He was overly tentative - because he couldn't land a double jab, he was reluctant to throw the straight right.

                  It was a truly bizarre fight. It was soul destroying to see Wladimir in his corner from round 4 or 5. His team gave him nothing.

                  That said, Fury did well. He did something I never thought I would see in this match up: he made Wladimir look befuddled and UNimpressive. Kudos.

                  I look forward to the rematch.
                  fury said wlad was just looking for the left hook all night (vitali told wlad to left hook) and that he didnt even hit hard after the fight in the changing room, i think fury will still be mobile next fight but he will be more confident and possibly more aggressive though in my opinion he should win anyway he can, i still cant see how wlad can bypass the jab without being open to a counter which makes wlad panic and even if he forced himself not to panic and take a punch to land a punch, hes open to getting ko'd and i cant see him ever doing that again.

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                    #5839
                    Originally posted by deathofaclown
                    I suppose it depends how good Haye's comeback is and if he can get a mandatory position for a couple of belts.

                    I don't think Fury should do him any favours at all and hand him a shot, but if he earns it the right way then can he really do anything about it?

                    Also, if Haye is looking very good in his comeback and people are crying out for the fight, i'd imagine it might be hard to say no to the tune of £10m + payday in a huge stadium fight.

                    But yeah, i hope Fury does him no favours and makes it as hard as possible for him to get the fight. And i say that as someone who likes Haye (in the ring).
                    Haye can grovel for 95/5 split, he ain't gonna be mandatory no time soon. In fact he could maybe earn it by 2018. I had a new found respect of Haye after him and Vitali shared time together, I felt everyone had moved on. I obviously respect Fury now but in no way hold Haye in as much esteem as Fury. What a difference a weekend makes, 36 minutes precisely. Hell I even think that John Fury dude is actually semi likeable. The titanic quote, I was like what a guy.

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                      #5840
                      Originally posted by -Weltschmerz-
                      Maybe, I was surpsrised how passive Banks was, he is supposed to see things Vlad doesn't see in there. He should have urged Vlad to press much earlier and take risks like he did in the last few rounds only, mostly the 12th when Fury looked ready to go.

                      A rematch will be interesting, we need an aggressive Vlad, he was frankly timid last night.
                      lol its kind of ironick...ever watch Banks fight? the man can't pull the trigger!!

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