Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[billeau2]

I've always followed Ortiz, but I always follow Cubans.

Agreed. I enjoy the Cuban fighters.

[Dr.Eisenfaust]

Ortiz has an 84 inch reach, good movement, and sets up his shots well.

He would handle guys like Lucas Browne and Arreola pretty easily.

Been thinking that for months
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Luis Ortiz would be an excellent sparrings partner for Klitschko, no doubt about it

[Fury4daWIN]

This certainly isn't true. Sanders had a huge left hand. And he didn't knock Vladimir out cold. People underrate Vlad's chin, he has taken some good punches during his career, and came on to win such fights.

Fury isn't a huge puncher for his massive size.

I agree with all this. Sanders was one of the most dangerous heavyweight punchers of the last few years, and it galls me whenever people refer to him as an overblown golfer or whatever they say. That golfer could punch! That Wlad wasn't knocked out cold by him considering how many unanswered blows he took is actually pretty impressive, though it was still an embarrassing knockout and doubly embarrassing that he never avenged it the way he avenged the loss to Brewster.

Wlad's got a B grade chin. He can take a decent shot and rarely goes down from single punches. Also in recent years he appears to react to shots a lot better, not panicking so much and retaining his composure. I actually think that was the main difference between himself and his brother; it wasn't so much their physical ability to take a shot but their mental reaction to taking one. Wlad panicked, Vitali didn't. Wlad still can't shake that clinch reflex whenever he gets buzzed, but he's nowhere near the nervous-wreck-in-waiting he used to be.

Fury's a pretty light puncher for his size, but he packs a lot of weight behind his shots by virtue of that sheer size, and given his skill and ability to land punches in bunches from multiple angles he's actually a more dangerous guy than someone like Helenius or Wach is. He's unlikely to just knock out Wlad as soon as he lands, but I expect him to land a lot more than anyone else has in recent years, and with the engine he has that could spell bad things for Wlad if it gets into the later rounds.

[yoz]

Ortiz has definitely flown under the radar. His opposition hasn't been great, but that's largely his promoter's fault. He looks very promising; i would fancy him against a number of top 10 fighters.

Oh, and he's also had the drug ban to serve.


EDIT: He'd beat Fury for sure.

[Fury4daWIN]

Ortiz has definitely flown under the radar. His opposition hasn't been great, but that's largely his promoter's fault. He looks very promising; i would fancy him against a number of top 10 fighters.

Oh, and he's also had the drug ban to serve.


EDIT: He'd beat Fury for sure.

I've recently been taking a look at this guy since he was getting such a lot of buzz and I really don't see what all the fuss is about. He has a decent jab and packs a bit of power, but what does he do that's so much better than everyone else? It's not like he's a Joseph Parker whose talent and explosiveness is clear for all to see, even against limited opposition. He just kind of plods around flinging his jab and the odd telegraphed power punch when his opponent gets into range.

He beats Fury for sure just like Chisora beats Fury before he actually fights him.

[Elroy1]

Ortiz has an 84 inch reach, good movement, and sets up his shots well.

He would handle guys like Lucas Browne and Arreola pretty easily.

I think also that Luis Ortiz has such potential.

However to say he would handle guys like Arreola and Browne easily is debatable.

I would very much like to see him fight somebody of this calibre and level first to make an accurate judgement.

[KnockoutNed]

Wlad is definitely more skilled in terms of what Wlad does, Fury can't do.

Fury has more variety though, a better engine and unpredictability - which is what makes him a very live dog in this fight.

He's better at greco-roman , not boxing.

Against Povetkin in Football Wlad would have been handed a Red card and sent off the pitch. As early as round two , yet he continued his foul play right up to the final bell.

He should have been heavily fined and banned from the sport. Like Mike Tyson was as that showing is up there with the ear biting incident.

[KnockoutNed]

Fury won't win a decision, but he could catch Klit. and knock him out.

Fury is not going to have to rely on finding the one big punch to win this fight.

Lee Selby and Josh Warrington, the UKs best two technical boxers think Fury's 'style will make Wlad look daft and old' ... I agree.

A late stoppage, or even worse - a towel - will see Fury crowned World Champ. That's assuming Wlad doesn't decide that he needs to take more time off.

[LoadedWraps]

Fury is not going to have to rely on finding the one big punch to win this fight.

Lee Selby and Josh Warrington, the UKs best two technical boxers think Fury's 'style will make Wlad look daft and old' ... I agree.

A late stoppage, or even worse - a towel - will see Fury crowned World Champ. That's assuming Wlad doesn't decide that he needs to take more time off.

Once Fury becomes the undisputed champ no one currently in the division will be able to beat him. Look for a good 19 win title defense streak coming up from Tyson Fury.

[Raonic]

Jesus what a terrible breakdown of the first in the OP.