Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[LacedUp]

The more vids i see of fury the more I see why he never fought the bigger Hw's and took a chance at this huge payday he has now...I cant blame him,...me ,myself? well im more convinced Wlad ends this within 5 rounds now from the press to this vid..im not to concerned what footage we are not seeing,total different skill sets here...when Wlad does win it will show however , how easy he handled a huge SHW with footwork. Next stop safter hopefully Wilder then Joshua,who is the real threat NOW,not fury.

so were clear without Wlad..fury would be looked at as the best giant in HW boxing..i don't think hes over Povetkin or Joshua...and wilder is a toss up for me. I also think Arias will surpass him as better fighters or Trey Morrison from what I see. You even have Pulev still lingering around as well,a solid better overall fighter at 250,i simply cant see fury with no power behind that frame winning this,and his percentage k.os cant sell it to me either,hes clearly pillow fisted to some of the hitters Wlads already faced.

But he did sign to fight Haye twice who people said was the best heavyweight not named Klitschko.

So that's not really true at all.

[Weltschmerz]

It would be nowhere near the same upset as Douglas vs Tyson. Nowhere near!! Fury is a legit player in the division, mandatory and ranked in the top 3 I believe. Wladimir is old and didn't have a great last couple of fights.

Tyson was an undefeated beast, perceived to be invincible and in his prime or so we thought. Add to that, Douglas had been beaten handily by guys tyson had already beaten or who were his sparring partners.

Nowhere near the same upset.

Still, it would be a major upset. Much bigger than Haye or Povetkin beating Vladimir. Fury made himself appear more legit than he in fact has proven in the ring, and he did it with self promotion and wild antics in general.

A bit like Muhammad Ali, who's 'greatest' tag is largely down to self promotion and lucky wins.

[LacedUp]

Still, it would be a major upset. Much bigger than Haye or Povetkin beating Vladimir. Fury made himself appear more legit than he in fact has proven in the ring, and he did it with self promotion and wild antics in general.

A bit like Muhammad Ali, who's 'greatest' tag is largely down to self promotion and lucky wins.

Yes bigger than Haye and Povetkin of course. But still it wouldn't compare to Douglas at all.

Lol sure. Lucky wins.

[BostonGuy]

I usually have a good idea of how Klitschko's fights play out; Wlad is very consistent and, in some ways, predictable. That doesn't mean he's easy to figure out because he's very good at what he does. He fights tall, finds his range and rythmn and uses his 'telephone poll' jab and powerful right hand to dictate the pace and punish his opponent.

With Fury, Wlad is gonna be the smaller man (not by much); he's gonna be punching at eye level and his range is going to be limited because Tyson Fury himself is good at fighting on the outside. I'm also not sure if and how Wladimir will hold and clinch Fury when they get close. Fury is strong athletic guy and he has a good inside fight game - in fact, he likes to fight on the inside.

I could see a scenario where there is a lot of grappling and wrestling as they get in close quarters; but one thing is for certain to me, Wlad is not gonna be able to do his "punch and grab" routine effectively against Fury. If that is taken away, then Wlad is really gonna have to fight with some urgency and this is what makes this fight interesting.

[juggernaut666]

But he did sign to fight Haye twice who people said was the best heavyweight not named Klitschko.

So that's not really true at all.

Haye is not a big HW ,and had Fury beat him still means little on a Wlad Type fighter...its certainly true.

On Ali ,he had some luck in many wins for a top HW.....the same luck if giving to Klitchko you would have unlimited ammo to use if we reversed roles ,and you know it ......

[Weltschmerz]

Yes bigger than Haye and Povetkin of course. But still it wouldn't compare to Douglas at all.

Lol sure. Lucky wins.

It would, since it would be the biggest HW upset since Douglas. It's not the same I know, but Vlad's still been undefeated for a decade now and faced better opposition than Fury along the way.

It would be the Douglas-Tyson of the 21st century.

[LacedUp]

It would, since it would be the biggest HW upset since Douglas. It's not the same I know, but Vlad's still been undefeated for a decade now and faced better opposition than Fury along the way.

It would be the Douglas-Tyson of the 21st century.

Definitely not the biggest upset since then. At all.

[yoz]

The more vids i see of fury the more I see why he never fought the bigger Hw's and took a chance at this huge payday he has now...I cant blame him,...me ,myself? well im more convinced Wlad ends this within 5 rounds now from the press to this vid..im not to concerned what footage we are not seeing,total different skill sets here...when Wlad does win it will show however , how easy he handled a huge SHW with footwork. Next stop safter hopefully Wilder then Joshua,who is the real threat NOW,not fury.

Fury's HW run is OK, but mostly littered with blown-up cruiserweights, small heavies and feather-fisted no-hopers.

He is in no way prepared for what Wladimir brings and it's beginning to show.

[Jewish-Reptile]

But he did sign to fight Haye twice who people said was the best heavyweight not named Klitschko.

So that's not really true at all.

Who said Haye was the second best heavyweight ? Chagaev convincingly more so defeated Valuev than Haye himself, then their was Povetkin an undefeated olympic gold medalist. Haye appeared to be in a rush to face Wlad once Chagaev was to be ordered as his mandatory and should Chagaev be able to fight in the UK due to his hepatitis he would have had to face Povetkin. During this time their were also the likes of an undefeated Solis, Adamek who had just soundly defeated Arreola in Cali and Arreola himself who still had a lot to offer during that period.

Haye has never once been the second best heavyweight.

[juggernaut666]

Greens sent.

Fury is a good boxer, is power most certainly overrated, his skill set is good for his size as is his mobility. I rate him personally, he's certainly a top 5-6 fighter in the division today, he just is not on Wlad's level, Wlad is not even in his prime anymore really either so a comparison when all is said and done and they've retired I'd say Fury ranks lower even further.

I'd like to credit Wlad more for a win over Fury but the guy has been dropped by feather fisted career cruisers, his punch resistance is poor and his match making to date is obviously a factor with his durability. His handlers deserve more credit than Fury himself avtually haha.

When Fury has been knocked out the same old detractors come along and say Fury was never anything special anyway, and the common consensus is he was just a huge imbecile more recognised for his mouth than his talents. The Klitschko hate mob then shift their attention to Joshua straight away, and they'll be saying what they now say about Haye about Fury !

Can Fury be a champion post Klitschko era ? Doubtful IMO, I expect we'll see Hughie go on an d emulate Tyson's achievements, he looks legit his credibility is already there with his current victories.

Hes definatly a top 5 and can make anyone look bad just on awkward style and size , unfortunately Wlad is elite and has the best jab i see in HW history , as Lewis said the opposition leading up to the fight for Fury is his reason why he will lose ,its kind of like jumping in a marathon on the fly after sitting on the couch for 2 months ....lol