Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[Fury4daWIN]

Pulev is a lead footed bum. Fury would box his ears off. Have you watched his fight against Ustinov? It's laughable how anyone could even think that Fury ducked them both.

He's hardly a bum now. Come on. Prior to his fight with Wlad, Pulev had one of the best resumes of any active and relevant heavyweight, including Povetkin. That Wlad was able to destroy him as he did was less indicative of Pulev's quality than it was of Wlad's ability to exploit major weaknesses in his game (which he does possess but which Fury would find harder to exploit). Pulev's dismantling of Ustinov was actually one of the reasons I rated him highly; I've followed Ustinov since his K-1 days and he was never obliterated like that in his entire career. He's an extremely tough and dangerous opponent with much better hand- and footspeed than his bulk indicates.It remains to be seen how well the rest of his career pans out, but I'd be very surprised to see him get embarrassed like that again, by anybody barring the very best.

[LacedUp]

He's hardly a bum now. Come on. Prior to his fight with Wlad, Pulev had one of the best resumes of any active and relevant heavyweight, including Povetkin. That Wlad was able to destroy him as he did was less indicative of Pulev's quality than it was of Wlad's ability to exploit major weaknesses in his game (which he does possess but which Fury would find harder to exploit). Pulev's dismantling of Ustinov was actually one of the reasons I rated him highly; I've followed Ustinov since his K-1 days and he was never obliterated like that in his entire career. He's an extremely tough and dangerous opponent with much better hand- and footspeed than his bulk indicates.It remains to be seen how well the rest of his career pans out, but I'd be very surprised to see him get embarrassed like that again, by anybody barring the very best.

Did he? Because I seem to remember Pulev feasting on bums and journeymen Chagaev style for his entire career leading up to Wlad.

He certainly did not have a better resume than Povetkin by any stretch of the imagination.

[mlac]

Erm, you just stated flat out that Cunningham lost to Adamek (post #2633). Since you did so baldy and without any qualifiers, that has to be regarded as either ignorance of the generally accepted controversy that surrounded the result or an attempt to spin the facts to make Cunningham look bad, which it seems is exactly what you're doing.



OK, and what does that prove? That the victory was no good? Would you have preferred Fury to have fought Adamek just because he was officially ranked higher than Cunningham, even though he was clearly the inferior fighter?

Your whole point is that Fury shouldn't be rated as highly as he is because he's never beaten a top ten fighter (false). Clearly, then, you put stock in beating fighters of a certain ranking. Fair enough. But when said rankings are clearly manipulated as a result of corruption, judging incompetence and what have you then other, less tangible, factors come into play when judging quality of victory, eye test, opponent resume, stylistic difficulties, public perception of the opponent at the time.

With Cunningham it was fairly easy to see that he was a better fighter than Adamek and therefore a stiffer test for Fury since Adamek didn't possess any significantly greater attributes that might have posed Fury problems where Cunningham did not. Had the fighter been someone like Mansour you could have maybe argued that his punching power might have allowed him to get the KO, but Adamek at that stage was a shell of himself, slow, feather fisted and lacking any form of solid punch resistance. A victory over him would have been meaningless except to satisfy ranking freaks like you and those too lazy or ignorant to judge quality of win on anything other than a number on a list.

At the end of the day Fury is ranked where he's ranked. If you have any issue with it then go take it up with the ranking bodies you seem to put so much faith into (when it suits you).

wow im not reading that. bore off m8 lol, i only said who has fury beat in the top 10, a fury fan went mental and told me cunningham was top 10 when he fought him, i pointed out that he wasnt, and now you're writing essays about it, dull.

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wow im not reading that. bore off m8 lol, i only said who has fury beat in the top 10, a fury fan went mental and told me cunningham was top 10 when he fought him, i pointed out that he wasnt, and now you're writing essays about it, dull.

Eyah m8 wot u talkin like dat 4? Cnt u spell proply?

Back on topic, mlac is just a casual, ignore him lads.

[mlac]

Eyah m8 wot u talkin like dat 4? Cnt u spell proply?

Back on topic, mlac is just a casual, ignore him lads.

jesus, the nerdling dullards are out in force today

Yes M8 im a casual because of pointing out fury has only beaten bum's and d level opposition and you're all butthurt now

even pointing out that his best win should of been a DQ (illegal punch on cruiserweight cunningham) you were like ' BUT HE WOULD OF WON ANYWAY DOE '

you seem to of lost all objectivity on this 'boxer' the very boxer who was told how to throw a jab BY THE REFEREE mid fight in the chisora 'fight'
i think you just want the giant gypsy schlong tbh.

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jesus, the nerdling dullards are out in force today

Yes M8 im a casual because of pointing out fury has only beaten bum's and d level opposition and you're all butthurt now

even pointing out that his best win should of been a DQ (illegal punch on cruiserweight cunningham) you were like ' BUT HE WOULD OF WON ANYWAY DOE '

you seem to of lost all objectivity on this 'boxer' the very boxer who was told how to throw a jab BY THE REFEREE mid fight in the chisora 'fight'
i think you just want the giant gypsy schlong tbh.

lol, you know nothing about boxing. Stick to football.

[mezoomozaa]

Who's going to listen to you. Look at your MayPac scorecard hahaha. Damnnnn.

What's wrong with the scorecard? what's yours? 12-0 to Mayweather? a boxing clinic? hehehe

[mlac]

lol, you know nothing about boxing. Stick to football.

you are awful.
everyone that know's about boxing (cringe) can see Povetkin is clearly better than Fury in every single way, he is proven and a former world champion and Olympian.

The fact you are trying to say Fury (the big stiff idiot who has fought bum's and looked ordinary and boring against them) would win every single round against Povetkin is laughable, verging on trolling level's.
Which led me to the conclusion, you simply have the Hot's for the Oaf.

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you are awful.
everyone that know's about boxing (cringe) can see Povetkin is clearly better than Fury in every single way, he is proven and a former world champion and Olympian.

The fact you are trying to say Fury (the big stiff idiot who has fought bum's and looked ordinary and boring against them) would win every single round against Povetkin is laughable, verging on trolling level's.
Which led me to the conclusion, you simply have the Hot's for the Oaf.

How is Fury a big stiff idiot though? There's nothing stiff about him, he's a fluid, skilled boxer who is excellent on his feet. Have a read of this analysis if you want more detail. I doubt you do, a post that contains more than three lines seems to trouble you, going off your previous reply to Fury4DaWin.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2015/3/4/...eight-analysis

You don't post any detail or analysis, you just claim wildly that Fury is a bum, because you don't possess the boxing knowledge to be capable of responding to any analysis posted.

Now, get back to school and gain a GCSE in English, you clearly need it.

[mlac]

How is Fury a big stiff idiot though? There's nothing stiff about him, he's a fluid, skilled boxer who is excellent on his feet. Have a read of this analysis if you want more detail. I doubt you do, a post that contains more than three lines seems to trouble you, going off your previous reply to Fury4DaWin.

http://www.badlefthook.com/2015/3/4/...eight-analysis

You don't post any detail or analysis, you just claim wildly that Fury is a bum, because you don't possess the boxing knowledge to be capable of responding to any analysis posted.

Now, get back to school and gain a GCSE in English, you clearly need it.

very weak reply, i need a GCSE because i wrote m8 instead if mate to please some petty little nerdling who takes issue of this on the internets?

You're just getting emotional now, i never said fury was a bum, i said fury has only fought bum's therefore is not proven, and to say he beats a proven heavyweight such as povetkin is simply ridiculous.
are you able to grasp this m8?

Are you denying he is big or stiff or an idiot? I will give you he is an entertaining big stiff idiot though.