Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[KnockoutNed]

[billeau2]

He will try to survive and box behind his jab in a really tight shell.

With the view that should he have some success, he might open up some more after rounds.

The strategy is doomed to fail as he discovers Wladimir has an answer for anything Fury can bring and then, his entire strategy will break down anyway once he feels the power.

Should he go for it early at any stage, he gets knocked out sooner than expected.

I suspect all of team Fury know this anyway and I expect Fury to try to employ measured boxing.

Given the parameters of both boxers, it will still be an exciting fight where defences will be constantly breached.

How do you figure this junior? Vlad never counterpunches....how exactly will Fury opening up cause him to get koed? Vlad uses his reach and keeps his jab going. what gets guys in trouble is when they try to chase him down, they get hit in the gaps coming fowards. Other guys stand still....Vlad is right there for Fury to hit, as Fury is for Vlad, they have similar reach.

[billeau2]

When did he say he'd favour Wlad over Lewis?

Please provide link.

Even if a link could be provided LU the truth is that Stewart became very chauvanistic towards HBO, and towards his own fighters. It hurts to say it because stewart is not here to refute it but Stewart's assesment of Vlad, was hardly objective.

its ironic because Lewis was trained by Stewart to do so many things, while he basically taught Vlad to tighten up his punches and to hold when he got in trouble. The proof is in the pudding....watch Lewis as he is assaulted by Briggs in there fight, he never panickes, he defends very well before returning fire and fininshing it. Vlad, by comparison panicks. when he was seriouslt attacked by Sanders he folded. Stewart knew this and taught him to grab...Its in the film.

[billeau2]

Lewis was almost k.od by Briggs in one round ,but a 6'6 sharper harder hitting Wlad would be incapable of beating him?Just bc you are a Lewis fanboy you cannot change direct quotes ,if you actually knew what you were talking about you would know Wlad would be one of three capable of beating him at his best.

He was not almost koed. Lewis never panicked, defended well, and took care of business. No way Vlad beats Lewis. Vitalie hits harder and Lewis took his shots, thats a fact.

[LoadedWraps]

He was not almost koed. Lewis never panicked, defended well, and took care of business. No way Vlad beats Lewis. Vitalie hits harder and Lewis took his shots, thats a fact.

Will Wlad be able to take Fury's shots? That's the real question.

[Elroy1]

He was not almost koed. Lewis never panicked, defended well, and took care of business. No way Vlad beats Lewis. Vitalie hits harder and Lewis took his shots, thats a fact.

On paper Wladimir Klitschko has an edge over LEnnox Lewis.

He is slightly longer, faster and sharper skilled and more disciplined than Lennox, kind of like a slightly improved version.

It is still something close to a 50/50 though.

Both boxers only ever really lost by flukes but Wladimir had really no troubles, just total dominance otherwise but Lennox often found himself in trouble (as against Briggs, Mercer etc) and unable to do in opponents that Wladimir would simply destroy (like MAvrovic for example).

It's clear.

You are a 5th generation pedigree NUT BAG!

The nut bag elite!

[Elroy1]

Will Wlad be able to take Fury's shots? That's the real question.

Billeau has this position because he suffers from severe dementia.

I know you don't really believe your own BS!

Wlad could shake off Fury's shots undefended, if Fury takes a single flush big shot from Wlad, it's over and you know it!!

[Earl-Hickey]

On paper Wladimir Klitschko has an edge over LEnnox Lewis.

He is slightly longer, faster and sharper skilled and more disciplined than Lennox, kind of like a slightly improved version.

It is still something close to a 50/50 though.

Both boxers only ever really lost by flukes but Wladimir had really no troubles, just total dominance otherwise but Lennox often found himself in trouble (as against Briggs, Mercer etc) and unable to do in opponents that Wladimir would simply destroy (like MAvrovic for example).

It's clear.

You are a 5th generation pedigree NUT BAG!

The nut bag elite!

A slightly improved version with no inside game, less punch variety, less killer instinct, less toughness, need I go on.

Wladamir has a better jab and is slightly cleaner, lewis has the advantage everywhere else

I like how he's also "slightly longer" with a 3" reach disadvantage

[Elroy1]

[QUOTE=billeau2;15924923]

How do you figure this junior? Vlad never counterpunches....

Wlad is an expert counterpuncher and has possibly the best timing and reflexes of all HW boxers.

how exactly will Fury opening up cause him to get koed?

Because Wlad's shots are so sharp and his reactions so sharp and technique so clean that the moment Fury breaks from a tortoise shell he will eat leather. Every movement of Fury's will be punished until Fury stands in front of him like a sitting duck, conditioned to not move anymore, ready to be knocked out.

Vlad uses his reach and keeps his jab going. what gets guys in trouble is when they try to chase him down, they get hit in the gaps coming fowards. Other guys stand still....

Nothing to argue here...

Vlad is right there for Fury to hit, as Fury is for Vlad, they have similar reach.

They have similar range. But Wlad is NEVER there to be hit by any boxer.

You are talking about the guy who has hardly ever been hit his entire career of 70 fights!

Again, his timing, reflexes and defence are so unbelievably good that it's utterly insane that you could hold such a position.

You obviously have never watched a single boxing match since 1979!

[Weltschmerz]

He was not almost koed. Lewis never panicked, defended well, and took care of business. No way Vlad beats Lewis. Vitalie hits harder and Lewis took his shots, thats a fact.

Vladimir hits harder than Vitali, this should be clear...