Cuauhtemoc1520's take on this weekend 7/12/2014

[-MAKAVELLI-]

That's why they invented the Video Trading Block

why did you edit my post? i have nothing to trade on the video block

[BostonGuy]

On my iPhone, I hit the edit button instead of reply

[CubanGuyNYC]

I can’t agree with that statement at all..How the hell can a Cuban Olympian fighter who was trained at a tender age to fight a certain style flip his style like a coin and become a brawler overnight?
It’s not going to happen and it’s really not that easy. Once they get caught with a power punch in the pocket, there outta there. They don’t want nunna that..So I seriously doubt any Cuban boxer is going to turn into a brawler overnight.. You are what you are & that’s a professional boxer with an amateur style..

PRPP

I don't give a fuck what you agree with, you steeeamy pile of dog shit.

You are so damn ****** you completely misinterpreted my post. I guess that's what happens when your mother and father are siblings.

[PRPOWERPUNCHES]

I don't give a fuck what you agree with, you steeeamy pile of dog shit.

You are so damn ****** you completely misinterpreted my post. I guess that's what happens when your mother and father are siblings.

What is there to misinterpret jerk off? "I think we'll be seeing some great Cuban boxer-punchers (my favorite style) in time." (No we wont. It’s not happening Jerk off, your either a ***ing brawler or a boxer, you can’t be both!) You’re the one who’s constantly places his own ***ing foot in his own ***ing mouth & I guess theses are the replies we should expect from wanna be professional boxers with an amateur style..

PRPP

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Do you think that Mares looked bad because of ring rust, or because Virgil Hunter might not be the best trainer for him?

For me it was ring rust to be honest. Mares is the type of fighter that prides himself on being active, but let's remember he suffered his first loss and it was a KO loss at that.

I'm sure he had to do some soul searching to come back and it will take time for him to make it back to where he was mentally.

I have had fighters with great amateur careers, lose in their pro debuts and quit boxing. Losing really affects fighters, some don't recover.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

What is there to misinterpret jerk off? "I think we'll be seeing some great Cuban boxer-punchers (my favorite style) in time." (No we wont. It***8217;s not happening Jerk off, your either a ***ing brawler or a boxer, you can***8217;t be both!) You***8217;re the one who***8217;s constantly places his own ***ing foot in his own ***ing mouth & I guess theses are the replies we should expect from wanna be professional boxers with an amateur style..

PRPP

Marco Antonio Barrera would disagree with you.

Also, as I have said in the past, Cuban fighters are new to this pro game thing. Sure there's been many Cuban champions, but because of the system in Cuba, we haven't seen the best the country has to offer. I think the more Cubans enter the pro ranks, the same evolution that happened in PR will happen in Cuban boxing.

They will adapt to the pro game and change, and I even think the amateur base will help them that much more.

[PRPOWERPUNCHES]

Marco Antonio Barrera would disagree with you.
Also, as I have said in the past, Cuban fighters are new to this pro game thing. Sure there's been many Cuban champions, but because of the system in Cuba, we haven't seen the best the country has to offer. I think the more Cubans enter the pro ranks, the same evolution that happened in PR will happen in Cuban boxing.

They will adapt to the pro game and change, and I even think the amateur base will help them that much more.

Again, I have to agree to disagree..

As much as I like MAB he was never a 1 punch KO artist or a puncher like some Cuban around here likes to call brawlers..lol PUNCHERS

PRPP

[Aztekkas]

Marco Antonio Barrera would disagree with you.

Also, as I have said in the past, Cuban fighters are new to this pro game thing. Sure there's been many Cuban champions, but because of the system in Cuba, we haven't seen the best the country has to offer. I think the more Cubans enter the pro ranks, the same evolution that happened in PR will happen in Cuban boxing.

They will adapt to the pro game and change, and I even think the amateur base will help them that much more.

I see that too. They will be a forced to be reckoned with once they can adjust to the pro's while retaining their boxing knowledge. Imagine a power punching Lara that could stand in the pocket and use his legs to create angles and let his hands go. I'm pretty sure we will see one in due time from Cuba.

Oh on Mares, have you seen his interview on Golpe a Golpe? Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. told him to his face he didn't look good. You could tell Mares felt a little bit down seeing as how Chavez Sr. has always been a big supporter of Mares and even gave him advice before and touted him as the next Mexican great. ALso, Chavez said he wanted Mares vs Jhonny soon but perhaps Mares was too scared, the tone and look on Mares was priceless Aquie esta el video para que lo veas si todavia no lo has visto.

[Mr.Fantastic]

Do you think so called boxing fans have a right to call for a rematch if they didn't pay for the Canelo vs Lara fight? I have yet to encounter someone that wants to and paid for it.

[ChampBox@PR]

I'm only going to touch the 4 main fights even though there were more.

Mauricio Herrera vs Johanne Perez

I really enjoy watching Herrera fight, I thought Perez did a better job than expected, but in the end Herrera really boxed well and took the fight over. He is so underrated IMO and I really hope he gets the fights and the pay days he deserves. I love his awkward style, the way he sets up the jab by being so off rhythm, throws it from an angle, standing straight up, on the move, he can do so much with that punch. Nobody wants to fight this guy, and it's obvious why.

Francisco Vargas vs JuanMa Lopez

This is a classic example of how 31 can be old. At 31 years old, JuanMa looks to have a million miles on the odometer. Not taking anything away from Vargas, but JuanMa can't take a shot anymore. I hope for his safety and the rest of his life, he quits boxing after being a really good fighter for so long. Vargas I believe is close to 30 and they need to push this guy fast. He has a lot of tools, and isn't just a come forward fighter. He can box, pressure and counter punch and depending on how fast he continues to improve, I really like watching him fight.

Abner Mares vs Johnathan Oquendo

This was a sloppy fight IMO. Oquendo was the stronger fighter, and was doing well early on but then Mares adjusted in the later rounds and pulled it off. Mares didn't look sharp though, the time off affected him and hopefully he stays busy and looks better the next time we see him. He just looked off, wasn't countering the way we are used to seeing and looked a little bit slower than usual. He needs to sharpen up if he's to fight Rigo.

Canelo Alvarez vs Erislandy Lara

I picked Canelo by stoppage in the 10th but also said that it could be a boring fight because of styles. Well, it was definitely an uneventful fight. Canelo isn't the pressure fighter people think he is, he's a counter puncher by trade and when he does come forward, does it with intelligence and caution. I knew Lara was going to move, but I expected him to throw more.

In the first 3-4 rounds it was a very tough fight to score because neither man was really doing much. I gave those early rounds to Lara because he was moving a lot, but was landing 1-2's more often and keeping Canelo at distance. Then in the middle to later rounds, Lara stopped punching. I think there was a moment in the fight where Lara realized that Canelo is not only more powerful than he thought, but a better boxer than he expected.

Mayweather vs Canelo played out much different and the comparisons aren't justified IMO. Mayweather moved yes, but also stood in front of Canelo and made him pay. He realized that Canelo was nowhere near the boxer he was, and standing in front of him wasn't really a risk. Where as Lara I think realized that the longer he stood in front of Canelo, the more risk it was because eventually he was going to get caught.

Canelo did have a hard time cutting the ring off, but that's again because he comes forward but with caution. He's not going to come in like Angulo face first and risk getting caught with a big shot. Instead he was taking angles, using the jab effectively and going to the body beautifully. I do think those body shots also affected Lara even though he wouldn't admit it.

I scored it 7-5 for Canelo, but I think a draw would have been justified. These fights are incredibly hard to judge because it depends on what style you like more. Do you score it for Lara who used better defense, movement and landed more head shots? Or do you score it for Canelo who pressured, used effective aggression and landed the better body shots and harder punches?

It's a tough call and 115-113 either way was understandable but that last judge at 117-111 was a disgrace. Lara screwed himself though, he talked a lot leading up to the fight, he wanted this fight and called it the fight of his life and then shows up and.....DUD. Just doesn't do anything and thinks he's still in the Pan American games fighting in the international amateur system. This is the pro's and boxing and moving is great, but you have to land shots eventually. The Cuban school of boxing is fantastic....for the amateurs. For the pro's they need to learn to adjust, and understand that what wins in the end is throwing punches, it is boxing when all is said and done.

I personally don't want to see a rematch, not because it's a hard fight for Canelo, but because of the styles. They just don't mesh well, the same reason I didn't want to see Canelo vs Mayweather again. Lara now has to go to the back of the line, and maybe we see Cotto and Canelo take a fight before a big showdown next year.

Style wise, Canelo vs Cotto would be incredible. This has all the makings of FOTY and you mix in the Mexico vs PR thing, it's a mega fight.

Great Post.