Comments Thread For: Lara: Canelo - Bigger Robbery Than Paul Williams Loss

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  • ricky1978
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    #51
    Originally posted by IIG
    This guy can campaign as much as he wants for a rematch, but it's not happening. Showtime wouldn't take that fight even if Canelo wanted it. I don't see Lara in the main event of any more PPVs.

    I agree....

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    • LouIE G
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      #52
      BRING ON ADRADE VS LARA UNIFICATION FIGHT FOR THE NUMBER 2 SPOT IN THE DIVISION.... i got andrade if it happens!

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      • icha
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        #53
        Originally posted by washdc
        Despite the victory, the fight revealed Canelo's limitations-- he was not very mobile and did/could not cut off the ring. He struggled to land (had good body work but could not land to the face), and when he did land his body shots, despite his perceived advantage in power, did not slow down his opponent. I am not sure that he can win against top-flight opposition (which Lara was not).
        is hard to look good vs lara even when you win, unless canelo fights rigo the rest of the fighters in proboxing dont run as much...

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        • BennyST
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          #54
          Originally posted by corrales41
          The numbers don’t lie. Canelo was beaten last night for the 2nd time in his career. He’s an overrated GBP fighter who got a gift last night from the paid off judges.

          #ShoStats: Total Punches Landed/Thrown
          thru 12
          Canelo [97/415, 23%]
          Lara [107/386, 27%]
          Actually numbers do lie. In boxing, they lie a lot.

          You cannot tell the difference between a punch that hurts someone, and one that grazes and does literally no damage at all. According to your number theory they both land. One punch that visibly hurts someone is more effective and should be scored higher than three soft punches that do nothing.

          If one guy lands a bunch of soft jabs moving backwards, along with a few decent normal shots, but lands a few more than the other guy who lands hard shots that visibly effect and break down the other guy, do you still go by numbers alone? Of course not.

          That's never been how boxing has worked. Numbers are for sprinting, timed and distance type sports, where they don't lie.

          In boxing, numbers lie drastically.

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          • LouIE G
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            #55
            Originally posted by ricky1978
            the total punches landed, Lara 107 & Canelo 97. I like both fighters, and it was a very close fight, but I wouldn't call it robbery at all. Canelo was looking to trade all night long but Lara was on his bike (Trinidad vs. De La Hoya's controversy, anyone?). To me, you will need to be more diverse than just a jab and a straight cross to beat Canelo....
            de la hoya vs trinidad was clear on my mind i even brought it up to some of my homies.....

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            • mathed
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              #56
              Had Lara not run, he would have gotten KO'd in a bad way, he knows this and in a rematch, he would do the same thing he did last night.

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              • swifty007
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                #57
                Lara needs to be more diverse with his punch selection. And Lara should have went to the body a LOT more. And Canelo threw some heavy body shots. But SOME, not all, of those shots were muted by the quick sideways movement of Lara going in that direction. Why did Canelo not land upstairs? Because he was not accurate enough. Did Lara run, really run for three rounds. Absolutely. I strongly feel that his ribs hurt like hell and he was trying to recover. If you watch those rounds, he hardly even lifted his hands. This fight could have ended as a lara win or draw, but canelo did not win.

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                • joesaiditstrue
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by washdc
                  Despite the victory, the fight revealed Canelo's limitations-- he was not very mobile and did/could not cut off the ring. He struggled to land (had good body work but could not land to the face), and when he did land his body shots, despite his perceived advantage in power, did not slow down his opponent. I am not sure that he can win against top-flight opposition (which Lara was not).
                  It's difficult to land on any moving target when they refuse to engage

                  agree that Canelo did a poor job of cutting the ring but Lara wasn't even fighting back in the second half of the fight, I was giving Canelo those close rounds because he was actually throwing punches

                  This fight wasn't rigo/donaire, Taylor/Chavez, rigo and Taylor actually threw punches and attempted counters

                  Lara throws a 1-2 here and there and circles the ring for 2.5 minutes

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                  • LouIE G
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by mathed
                    Had Lara not run, he would have gotten KO'd in a bad way, he knows this and in a rematch, he would do the same thing he did last night.
                    no rematch though mathed...at least i dont want to see it. he had his chance and he blew it!

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                    • Jayallday9
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by pvj
                      Dude is like 23, has charisma and a huge following, I think he'll be alright. Besides, the Cotto fight is a winnable for him, so if he wins that, this close fight with Lara will become just a name on his resume.
                      He has youth on his side but with 46 fights what does his age mean? He's so young and thats what makes me wonder what is he going to do after Cotto while he insists that he never leaves 154. Nelo is okay as a boxer but what Oscar/GBP is trying to do and sell him as the next Mexican great, the wheels will fall off of that bus sooner than later..

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