Comments Thread For: Lara: Canelo - Bigger Robbery Than Paul Williams Loss

[Bronx2245]

I don't really even care about the 117-111 card because the 115-113 card for Canelo was a joke too. He was outboxed. And according to the criteria for scoring a fight, he won in a landslide. Clean, effective punching Lara dominated. Effective aggression. Ask yourself. How much of Canelo's aggression was effective? Ring generalship. Lara got done what he wanted to get done more so than Nelo. Defense. Lara's defense was worlds better than Nelo's. Please explain to me how according to those criteria for scoring a fight did Canelo win. You don't lose a fight because people aren't entertained by what you're doing. And that's basically what happened to Lara last night. And now, fans who don't like his style and would rather not see him again are acting like he didn't win last night. If they wanna black ball him like Rigo, fine. But he should have gotten his victory and been able to fade into Bolivia, as Iron Mike would say.

I can't really disagree with your analysis, but don't you think that Lara and Shields should've known that they were not going to get a decision with that strategy, I think Lara was more aggressive in the Trout and Angulo fights, and he never stepped his aggression up to that level. He was robbed by Williams, but he fought the same way last night. The definition of insanity is repeating the same actions and expecting a different outcome. That strategy was insane.

[4Corners]

You win a fight by landing significant punches, and if you just land jabs, the other guy better not touch you at all, and you better be controlling the pace and making the fight.

Lara didn't do that. He landed his jabs, but ate as many body shots in the process, and Canelo had Lara running around, Canelo was pressing the fight. A body shot and pressing he fight means more than running around flicking a jab.

[bojangles1987]

I don't really even care about the 117-111 card because the 115-113 card for Canelo was a joke too. He was outboxed. And according to the criteria for scoring a fight, he won in a landslide. Clean, effective punching Lara dominated. Effective aggression. Ask yourself. How much of Canelo's aggression was effective? Ring generalship. Lara got done what he wanted to get done more so than Nelo. Defense. Lara's defense was worlds better than Nelo's. Please explain to me how according to those criteria for scoring a fight did Canelo win. You don't lose a fight because people aren't entertained by what you're doing. And that's basically what happened to Lara last night. And now, fans who don't like his style and would rather not see him again are acting like he didn't win last night. If they wanna black ball him like Rigo, fine. But he should have gotten his victory and been able to fade into Bolivia, as Iron Mike would say.

Alvarez's body punches were numerous enough and clearly hard enough to win him enough rounds. He didn't look good, but Lara let him steal rounds through inactivity. A couple of good left hands isn't going to outscore hard body shot combinations that are landing solid.

I think Lara won, but the fight could have gone either way. If Lara doesn't give away the 12th I'd probably be screaming robbery as well, but he did and that gives Alvarez what he needs for his own winning case.

[mercenario]

In the amateurs a hit is a point, when the time runs out the guy with the more points (hits) wins. In the pros is different, the fight is scored by rounds, 10 point system. This is not basketball or baseball. You can outland someone and still loose more rounds. There's no closing the game or buzzer beater 3 point combo. Lara was unwilling to engage, he was making Canelol miss without making him pay, he was looking at the clock, like he had somewhere else to be. He was in full retreat with no tactical purpose. It was painful to watch. Lara is superior but Canelo wanted it more. Other than the outrageous score this could go either way. Canelo didn't win Lara lost the fight. Lara is an athlete not a warrior.

[PACnPBFsuck]

[CubanGuyNYC]

my initial thought though when i heard the 117 card was that they gave it to lara

Same here. Although I didn't think the fight was that wide, I couldn't fathom how anyone could score it that big for Canelo.

but anyway....i gave canelo round 9 but lara took rounds 10-11 canelo took the 12 making it a draw for me so idk, if the 3rd judge scored it 115-113 i think there would be no talk about robbery, i just think that the 117 card is what set set a lot of people off iin to thinking robbery...but lara has no one else to blame for this loss, he blew it!

Good points; but, in the end, the bold says it. Landy fought real well, I thought, but he had to know too much running/inactivity could bite him. That style of his lends itself to losing close rounds. He's not a dominating fighter, and there will always be close rounds in a fight. You can't afford to lose them because you're being too laid-back.

[LAPete]

Bottom line: You want the Championship Belt?....Then you have to BEAT the Champ.
Fact: Lara came up short. Game over!

[MRBOOMER]

Sure are some whinny ass *****es in here. Anyways I'm happy canelo won knew it'd be close and like I said in some of my post before the fight it was gonna be body work that won it for canelo

Happy I get to stop hearing about this great Cuban boxing when all lara did was run he doesn't even run you into anything he just runs it's like he's working on his damn stamina during the fight. If he fought like rigo I could deal with it but 1,2's every 30 seconds and arm punches aren't gonna get it at A top level I didn't get to see the fight only snips and bits but Lara's a ****ing idiot he has all this "speed" and great footwork lands a good 1,2 and never followed it up with anything no hooks no real combinations nothing he just fought like a child and that's what lost him this fight doesn't bother me tho I can't stand that mother ****er his face irritates me but maybe that's just my half Mexican side coming out.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Alvarez's body punches were numerous enough and clearly hard enough to win him enough rounds. He didn't look good, but Lara let him steal rounds through inactivity. A couple of good left hands isn't going to outscore hard body shot combinations that are landing solid.

I think Lara won, but the fight could have gone either way. If Lara doesn't give away the 12th I'd probably be screaming robbery as well, but he did and that gives Alvarez what he needs for his own winning case.

Good post, Bo.

[4Corners]

No scorecard should have read 116-112 or 117-111 for either guy.

I saw a draw or 115-113 Canelo.

You don't win rounds by landing some good jabs while eating body punches and running around the ring, while the other guy is making the fight. You just don't. Lara landed like 10 more punches while running around fighting off his back foot, and like 3/4 of the Laras punches were just jabs. While Canelo landed the harder shots. No one could honestly say Canelo didn't land the better shots with those body punches.