Lennox Lewis - How good was he?

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  • Mitchell Kane
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    #71
    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
    That's an opinion. Especially based off the fact that Lewis has less title fight wins for a lesser duration and has been flat knocked out twice while Wlad has never been starched stiff. I would say Wlad has a better jab and an equally great right hand.
    Lewis also defeated both opponents who beat him.

    Wladimir didn't even bother to rematch all the opponents who've beaten him.
    Last edited by Mitchell Kane; 07-09-2014, 01:46 PM.

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    • yoz
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      #72
      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
      Wlad always got up and was never punch drunk when he did.
      Hmmm, Sanders?

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        #73
        Great record, ATG HW, solid resume but overrated technically by almost everyone IMO and he never fought a southpaw.
        How can you have a guy as this h2h #1 or 2 or whatever when he never fought a southpaw?

        He is very much like Wladimir = labeled as boring, no inside game and all of this. Now he is retired he is suddenly this unbeatable monster that produced fireworks & was great inside.

        I don't see him being superior to Wladimir I really don't.
        Wlad has a better jab
        Better and fast footwork
        Better at controlling distance
        Better handspeed, more power, crisper technique.

        For me, Lewis is a poor mans Wladimir. I know its an unpopular opinion but that is how I see it.

        I don't take anything away from him he was a very good HW but these days I feel he gets a little overrated and I think his resume whilst very good is for most part a little overrated & he relied a lot of catching guys at the right time.

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          #74
          We're talking HW here. How many "great" southpaw heavy's have there been?

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            #75
            Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
            Wlad gets knocked clean out by Lewis, early.

            Everything Wlad does well, Lewis done it better. He's simply a far better fighter.
            You can't honestly think Lewis had a better jab. You just can't.

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            • Boxing Goat
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              #76
              Originally posted by Mitchell Kane
              Lewis also defeated both opponents who beat him.

              Wladimir didn't even bother to rematch all the opponents who've beaten him.
              He didn't need to, by then Vitali had already stopped them.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                You can't honestly think Lewis had a better jab. You just can't.
                Wlad paws with his jab too much. These days anyway and for the past 5 years.

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                  #78
                  Michael Moorer, Chris Byrd, Corrie Sanders are a few he could of fought

                  Moorer was a world champion at the same time Lewis was.
                  Lewis admitted he ducked Sanders and continually stated he hated southpaws.

                  Lewis was a very good HW but he sure knew his limits.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by dan_cov
                    Great record, ATG HW, solid resume but overrated technically by almost everyone IMO and he never fought a southpaw.
                    How can you have a guy as this h2h #1 or 2 or whatever when he never fought a southpaw?

                    He is very much like Wladimir = labeled as boring, no inside game and all of this. Now he is retired he is suddenly this unbeatable monster that produced fireworks & was great inside.

                    I don't see him being superior to Wladimir I really don't.
                    Wlad has a better jab
                    Better and fast footwork
                    Better at controlling distance
                    Better handspeed, more power, crisper technique.

                    For me, Lewis is a poor mans Wladimir. I know its an unpopular opinion but that is how I see it.

                    I don't take anything away from him he was a very good HW but these days I feel he gets a little overrated and I think his resume whilst very good is for most part a little overrated & he relied a lot of catching guys at the right time.
                    I really can't agree with what you're saying regarding the comparison. But as I also said in the first post, I also think he's overrated by some. And in your case, maybe a little underrated.

                    Lewis was pretty good inside, I think his fights with Morrison, Holyfield and Vitali proved that. He had a monstrous uppercut that he used a lot, Wlad literally just clinches on the inside.

                    As for being faster, I don't really see much of a difference there. I think both were close to equally quick. But Lewis throws better combinations than Wlad, who mainly just throws the jab before the right hand. That's what he does.

                    Lennox had just as good a 1-2 as Wlad, maybe not completely as powerful in terms of one-punch knockout power, but technically, but he was a way better finisher than Wlad, who for his technical brilliance, is really an awful finisher - especially considering the power he has in both hands.

                    Basically, Lewis showed his talents more against better opposition, and though being tentative at time, was way better at going after an opponent. and finishing him off once they were hurt like he did Grant, Golota, Ruddock, Bruno, Botha, Briggs etc.

                    Controlling distance - What do you base that on? I agree Wlad has excellent footwork, especially for such a big guy, but what he does is simply to throw a jab and take a step backwords. I don't know if that counts as 'controlling distance' well, but he just avoids getting on the inside.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by yoz
                      Hmmm, Sanders?
                      He got right up and wasn't woozy like Lennox was.

                      Now, do I think Wlad could have taken the punch McCall hit Lewis with any better?

                      No way, but that's besides the point.

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