Lennox Lewis - How good was he?

[LacedUp]

I wouldn't say he paws with it. He can still put some stank on it when he wants to and it's never soft so no...

He definitely paws with his jab, no point in denying it.

[dan_cov]

This is obviously not true. Lewis said he wasn't good enough to fight him and he picked the guy who beat him (rahman) instead.

With regards to Michael Moorer, you can't just say he avoided him because they didn't fight - that's just insane. Moorer went after holyfield and foreman - the more lucrative options at the time.

Byrd could have happened I suppose, but ultimately, Grant was the better choice for HBO and he was also ranked above Byrd so I don't really see any case for that.

Before all of this. Lewis actually helped Sanders in preparation for Wladimir and went on record saying he was glad he never had to fight Sanders.

Again before this and when did Lewis ever fight Foreman? Lewis waited years and years until he knew he could beat Holyfield. He fought a heavily on the decline, drug using post car crash Holyfield.

There was many southpaws, world champions and the guys he opted for was not more lucrative they was the likes of 5ft10 steroid using journeyman Justin Fortune and Oliver McCall who had to be dragged out of a rehab clinic.

[Boxing Goat]

Wasn't woozy? What fight were you watching? His eyes rolled around in his head and he fell like timber 3 times.

He got right up. He didn't stumble. He more-less got caught cold and never recovered. He got blew out but it wasn't like he was just put to sleep or hurt badly or anything. It was more of a being stunned situation. He made it to his feet within a ten count evey time.

[Boxing Goat]

Vitali fought Ross Purrity 3 years after he beat Wladimir.

What's your point? Purrity wasn't anybody who needed to be beaten to get into title contention or anything. It wasn't as if it was when Wlad was champ or anything. Only Sanders beat him and took his title.

[Boxing Goat]

Problem is, Wlad doesn't have much more than that.

As evident, he apparently doesn't need much more now does he

[Boxing Goat]

Holyfield was clearly the bigger draw but no one wanted to fight Lewis at that time. Just watch his fight against a prime, motivated Mercer (who was as dangerous as it gets) and ask yourself who wanted to step in the ring with him.

WTF are u talking about? Mercer arguably won the fight.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

He got right up. He didn't stumble. He more-less got caught cold and never recovered. He got blew out but it wasn't like he was just put to sleep or hurt badly or anything. It was more of a being stunned situation. He made it to his feet within a ten count evey time.

Is this tantamount to you suggesting that Wlad has a better chin than Lewis?

[LacedUp]

Before all of this. Lewis actually helped Sanders in preparation for Wladimir and went on record saying he was glad he never had to fight Sanders.

Again before this and when did Lewis ever fight Foreman? Lewis waited years and years until he knew he could beat Holyfield. He fought a heavily on the decline, drug using post car crash Holyfield.

There was many southpaws, world champions and the guys he opted for was not more lucrative they was the likes of 5ft10 steroid using journeyman Justin Fortune and Oliver McCall who had to be dragged out of a rehab clinic.

I know he did. Remember Sanders saying in the post fight interview that Lennox had called him to say Wlad couldn't handle the pressure or something like that. They were friends.

Well.. That's just not fair. Lewis wanted to fight Holyfield, there's no denying that. He wanted to fight Tyson too, in 1996, but Tyson didn't want it - Tyson wanted Holyfield. So that meant both guys were tied up, Lewis fought Holyfield after Holyfield was done with Tyson, and if I remember correctly Don King was lowballing Lewis or something like that for a long time, whilst Lewis was fighting top ranked opponents like Golota. I just can't see any case for Lewis ducking Holyfield ever.

I'm pretty sure Foreman would have fought Lewis had he beaten Briggs, but he was robbed so Briggs got the fight. That was the deal.

With regards to Fortune, was that not right after he was just knocked out? Dont think Wlad's comeback fight against Fabio Eduardo Moli was more impressive. Do you?

There weren't many southpaws, there were one realistic one. And that was Moorer - but he too was knocked out and Lennox faced the winner.

I simply can't see any evidence that Lewis ducked anyone at all - I think he continuously showed he wanted to fight the best.

[IMDAZED]

WTF are u talking about? Mercer arguably won the fight.

It was a close fight between two prime, high tiered HW's and Lewis won. But thank you.

[LacedUp]

As evident, he apparently doesn't need much more now does he

Which is the sad proof of the state of the heavyweight division and Wlad's current opposition.