A look into Floyd's last 9 opponents

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  • djtmal
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    #11
    I just knew after hatton it would be prime undefeated cotto then pac next, so that would have been a still good oscar, prime undefeated hatton, then prime undefeated cotto, absolute beast mode Pac...throw in the wins he got with marquez, shane, and the young gun Alvarez...he remains undefeated after that murderers row and nobody couldn't really say much

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    • MRCHOKEaMF
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      #12
      Plain and simple you guys complaining yeT:

      Mayweather has fought more World Champions than ANY BOXER IN HISTORY! AND STILL UNDEFEATED.
      4 lineal titles in as many weight classes
      6 wins vs currently ranked top 10 p4p fighters
      Undefeated
      Has a record of 24-0 (10 KOs) in world title fights.
      Has a record of 22-0 (7 KOs) against former or current world titlists
      Has a record of 2-0 (1 KO) against International Boxing Hall of Fame inductees
      Totals: 12,915,000 buys and $757,940,000 in revenue
      WBC Welterweight Champion
      2011 Sep 17-present
      WBA Light Middleweight Champion
      Super Champion
      2012 May 5 - present
      WBC Light Middleweight Champion
      2013 Sep 14 - present
      WBA Welterweight Champion
      Unified Champion
      2014 May 3 - present

      IF AN UNBIASED PERSON READS THOSE STATS THEY WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE he's HANDS DOWN THE BEST OF THIS GENERATION! HATE ALL YOU WANT, BUT THESE FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES
      Last edited by MRCHOKEaMF; 07-07-2014, 02:31 PM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by djtmal
        I just knew after hatton it would be prime undefeated cotto then pac next, so that would have been a still good oscar, prime undefeated hatton, then prime undefeated cotto, absolute beast mode Pac...throw in the wins he got with marquez, shane, and the young gun Alvarez...he remains undefeated after that murderers row and nobody couldn't really say much
        Cotto has went on record saying that he wasnt ready at that point in his career for Floyd so they turned down the offer to fight him, Roach, ariza, and pac's advisor have all admitted that the hold up for the Pac vs May fight was Arum. Pac then turned down the May fight himself on jan 21st of this year. just the FACTS.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #14
          Originally posted by DonSimon87
          A lot of criticism has fallen on Floyd for his choice of opponents since moving up to 147 - so lets analyse his last 9 opponents.

          Only 3 of them had been stopped before he fought them (Cotto, Ortiz and De La Hoya).

          Moved up another weight class to fight 3 of them.

          2 were undefeated at the time he fought them.

          Mosley came off a KO win of Margarito. Ortiz had 5 wins and 1 draw post Maidana plus a FOTY with Berto just before Mayweather. Alvarez was tipped by many to crush Mayweather. Maidana had 4 strong wins (3 by KO and a battering of Broner). Guerrero was a mandatory. Cotto had 3 good wins including revenge over Margarito post Pacquiao loss.

          Marquez win is tarnished due to the weight advantage Mayweather had.

          Tough fight with Maidana and appears to be giving an immediate rematch - credit or discredit?

          Apart from Pacquaio (ideally after the Mosley win) what/who is missing from his resume?
          Ortiz and Guerrero are ****.

          Marquez deserves more credit than Floyd gets, I do give him more credit, but there's a clear difference in Marquez then and Memo Marquez now. Plus the weight con, of course. I don't think the fight would go any differently now, don't get me wrong.

          Cotto did not have 3 good wins. He had two wins over shot fighters and a stoppage against an average guy whose knee burst during a competitive fight. That's an okay win.

          Mosley didn't look very good, but considering the talk beforehand that has to be allowed as a good win. There's no discrediting Alvarez unless the ginger goes on to suck.

          Many of these fights are an example of justifiable cherry picks, something Floyd is really good at. They look good on paper, and you can't really go too harsh because they are better wins than most pick up. And of course when other guys are cherry picking Ron Salsa it makes Floyd even better. They aren't particularly special or deserving of the hype Floyd's fans give him because of them, though.

          He and Pacquiao should have fought each other and both guys' resumes take a huge hit for not fighting each other.

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            #15
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Very good resume, obviously.

            Beaten more top 5 ranked fighters and #1 ranked fighters than any other from this generation.


            Rankings are mostly overrated and easy to manipulate.

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              #16
              Originally posted by MRCHOKEaMF
              Cotto has went on record saying that he wasnt ready at that point in his career for Floyd so they turned down the offer to fight him, Roach, ariza, and pac's advisor have all admitted that the hold up for the Pac vs May fight was Arum. Pac then turned down the May fight himself on jan 21st of this year. just the FACTS.
              Sound more like excuses to me

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                #17
                Originally posted by MRCHOKEaMF
                Plain and simple you guys complaining yeT:

                Mayweather has fought more World Champions than ANY BOXER IN HISTORY! AND STILL UNDEFEATED.
                4 lineal titles in as many weight classes
                6 wins vs currently ranked top 10 p4p fighters
                Undefeated
                Has a record of 24-0 (10 KOs) in world title fights.
                Has a record of 22-0 (7 KOs) against former or current world titlists
                Has a record of 2-0 (1 KO) against International Boxing Hall of Fame inductees
                Totals: 12,915,000 buys and $757,940,000 in revenue
                WBC Welterweight Champion
                2011 Sep 17-present
                WBA Light Middleweight Champion
                Super Champion
                2012 May 5 - present
                WBC Light Middleweight Champion
                2013 Sep 14 - present
                WBA Welterweight Champion
                Unified Champion
                2014 May 3 - present

                IF AN UNBIASED PERSON READS THOSE STATS THEY WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE he's HANDS DOWN THE BEST OF THIS GENERATION! HATE ALL YOU WANT, BUT THESE FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES
                But he's scared to death of fighting Pacquiao. That's the problem.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Booty Dew


                  Rankings are mostly overrated and easy to manipulate.
                  Is that only for Floyd? If not then how come everyone else can't beat as many?

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #19
                    Trying to justify Floyd's resume through undefeated records and whatever bogus belt or rankings his opponent held is ******, but it's 90% of the argument people use to call him TBE and all that.

                    Names, and when you fought them, matter more than rankings. Amir Khan was WBC #1 at welterweight last year, and if Mayweather had fought him people would have said, "he fought the #1 ranked contender" without caring that Khan did not deserve it in the least.

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                    • MRCHOKEaMF
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by bojangles1987
                      Ortiz and Guerrero are ****.

                      Marquez deserves more credit than Floyd gets, I do give him more credit, but there's a clear difference in Marquez then and Memo Marquez now. Plus the weight con, of course. I don't think the fight would go any differently now, don't get me wrong.

                      Cotto did not have 3 good wins. He had two wins over shot fighters and a stoppage against an average guy whose knee burst during a competitive fight. That's an okay win.

                      Mosley didn't look very good, but considering the talk beforehand that has to be allowed as a good win. There's no discrediting Alvarez unless the ginger goes on to suck.

                      Many of these fights are an example of justifiable cherry picks, something Floyd is really good at. They look good on paper, and you can't really go too harsh because they are better wins than most pick up. And of course when other guys are cherry picking Ron Salsa it makes Floyd even better. They aren't particularly special or deserving of the hype Floyd's fans give him because of them, though.

                      He and Pacquiao should have fought each other and both guys' resumes take a huge hit for not fighting each other.

                      THE problem I have with Guerrero is he's been trashed after the May fight but now he's being discussed as a good fight for Pac, hows that?

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