"Alien" Hopkins vs "Krusher" Kovalev Post fight Discussion thread

[!! Shawn]

Jones and Hopkins are above Floyd and Manny.

Anyway, it's a fight I know Hopkins is going to win and I don't see the greatness of Kovalev that everyone else sees, that would catapult Hopkins into GOAT status. Kovalev beat two good prospects and one good gatekeeper.

Also, I really hate how boxing got a good fight going on, and Floyd Mayweather has to be linked to it by fans somehow. Floyd has to be connected with every boxing move. As if Kovalev>Maidana. Cause like I said, fans like to throw fighter under the bus. One day Maidana is a forum hero, now he gets shat on for some guy who burst onto the scene last year.

Lets be fair, resume wise, Pacman is top of the heap for the modern era. Im not really a fan of his, the pinoys are fairly annoying as a fan base, but barrera, morales, marquez, cotto. In retrospect its easy to realize he was better than most of them, but at the times he fought everyone, they were all tossup fights or extremely dangerous. His resume is really remarkable especially for the modern era.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

This era:

Manny
Hopkins
Floyd
Roy
Wlad
Vlad
Marquez
Cotto

[LoadedWraps]

Mr know it all over here

WAR B-HOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LacedUp]

This era:

Manny
Hopkins
Floyd
Roy
Wlad
Vlad
Marquez
Cotto

I think Roy Jones should be separated from this era.

He ended in '03-'04

[LoadedWraps]

He already is above him in my rankings, so no.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Yeah, I probably would have Hopkins higher..

I think he has beaten better opponents with no excuses or advantages..

His wins over Tito, tarver, pavlik, pascal, and kovolev would trump Floyd's best wins..

Throw in the fact that Hopkins is a record holder at mw, plus major title wins at 175 in his 40s, I think there is no doubt Hopkins has the better resume..

Floyd might be a better fighter h2h but Hopkins has a better resume

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I keep them even in the ratings department. Kova will have to fight smart and avoid Bernards standard trappings or Kova will be in tuff with Bernard.
To me Bernard can perform well in any era but he isn't a top five guy in the Middle or LtHvy divisions. That's just my opinion and his record is very good but he never faced talents like Robinson, Hagler, LaMotta, Cerdan and Griffth and Monzon or Burley. I don't see Bernard game working well against the greats at 160. That's not to say he can't compete and do well. At LtHvy he gets hurt against the greats, sorry but he doesn't stand in with Bob Foster or Mike Spinks, Conn, Moore, Johnson or Saad or Jones theres others too. Again he can hang with most but he is NOT a dominate fighter in with the greats!

His legacy has more to with his age and productivity than his resume names!

He has skills to go along with his ring IQ and as he's gotten older he knows when to fight and when to BS every to think he's doing something special.
That's a talent in its self, Floyd's learned it too. It's like Ali looking great the first and last 30 seconds of a round just make the middle doesn't have anything happen that distracts from the Thirties!!!!!Also known as "stealing the round"!!! Ali was a master at that, no one had a 3 minute clock in his head like him.

Ray.

That's a great post about Hopkins,, you didn't bring up Floyd comparison, but that is a great assessment of Hopkins.. He is a lower tier atg

[LoadedWraps]

BHOP is one of the most decorated boxers in all of boxing history. He WILL win this fight and it will be his greatest accomplishment and the victory will propel him into the top 10 of boxing ATG's.

This!!!!!!!! Great post!!

[LoadedWraps]

Hopkins will fake an injury in the first three rounds and they'll stop the fight.

never. B-Hop will go to war!

[Tay Roc]

legitimately fear for hopkins' health.