Lets put these Martinez knee injury denials to rest

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  • oc9979
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    #151
    Originally posted by New England
    you live in a fantasy land.

    martinez is going to retire. he is all done. maybe he looks to make dough with easy fights in argentina.
    You never know. I am a Cotto fan and I didn't think Cotto was going to dominate the fight the way he did and Cotto is closed to shot.

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    • BMWM3P
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      #152
      Originally posted by New England
      obviously it's a combination of both.

      no reasonable / objective posters are denying that martinez was hurt.



      cotto beat up a completely shot fighter.
      Petulant as ever.

      You are a self deluded douche.

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      • elgu
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        #153
        Originally posted by BMWM3P
        Petulant as ever.

        You are a self deluded douche.
        The only deluded ppl are the Cotto stans acting like Cotto beat a prime Martinez. Beating a one legged fighter is nothing to be proud of but they are making it like the biggest victory in Cotto's career because the only name Cotto has on his resume is an 85% shane mosley.

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          #154
          Originally posted by New England
          obviously it's a combination of both.

          no reasonable / objective posters are denying that martinez was hurt.



          cotto beat up a completely shot fighter.
          He's recovered and came back from things like that before.

          His movement was trashed from the beginning before and after he was hurt and he never got it back.

          That leads me to believe that maybe his knee was not what it used to be or he just wasn't confident in it like before but that didn't account for his slow hands and slow reflexes.

          I wouldn't say he is shot but he certainly was no longer good enough to stay the MW champ anymore.

          GGG would have left him on the mat twitching had he been in the ring that night.
          Last edited by Boxing Goat; 06-11-2014, 01:34 PM.

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            #155
            Originally posted by BMWM3P
            Petulant as ever.

            You are a self deluded douche.




            who are you?

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            • Boxing Goat
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              #156
              Originally posted by elgu
              The only deluded ppl are the Cotto stans acting like Cotto beat a prime Martinez. Beating a one legged fighter is nothing to be proud of but they are making it like the biggest victory in Cotto's career because the only name Cotto has on his resume is an 85% shane mosley.
              It was a great win any way you slice it. You can't completely take that from Cotto. Sergio wasn't in a wheel chair for crying out loud.

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                #157
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                He's recovered and came back from things like that before.

                His movement was trashed from the beginning before and after he was hurt and he never got it back.

                That leads me to believe that maybe his knee was not what it used to be or he just wasn't confident in it like before but that didn't account for his slow hands and slow reflexes.

                I wouldn't say he is shot but he certainly was no longer good enough to stay the MW champ any longer.

                GGG would have left him on the matt twitching had he been in the ring that night.


                i think we should stop using the word "knee" and start using the word "legs."


                martinez was once the fleetest fighter in boxing. at 39, his legs are a shadow of what they were in his prime.

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                • WilkinsOlajuwon
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                  #158
                  I think Cotto should be judged more on what he does with the title going forward. It wasn't an impressive win but he still had to go in there and handle.

                  This whole thing is just more evidence as to why lineal and division titles mean less and less yet are used more and more to market fighters.

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                  • elgu
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                    It was a great win any way you slice it. You can't completely take that from Cotto. Sergio wasn't in a wheel chair for crying out loud.
                    A great win? You are telling me a guy that couldn't beat Trout would beat a 100% Martinez.

                    If Martinez accomplishes anything after this defeat then you can make that claim. For the time being it's just a win over a faded opponent that couldn't even put weight behind his punches.

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                    • oc9979
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by New England
                      i think we should stop using the word "knee" and start using the word "legs."


                      martinez was once the fleetest fighter in boxing. at 39, his legs are a shadow of what they were in his prime.
                      Who do you think was the better fighter on fight night Rodriguez or Martinez?
                      Who do you think was the better fighter before the fight?

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