Lets put these Martinez knee injury denials to rest

[BMWM3P]

I predicted what would happen if the Martinez of the Chavez fight showed up. I never said a completely shot Martinez would beat Cotto. Nothing I said was ******. My posts mean just as much as any other poster's.

LOL what a tard. If only I cared enough to post all the ****** **** you posted leading up to this fight.

You have no horse in this race your opinion means ****.

[BucaRican]

You can't say this....



And then say this.



Now THERE'S a contradiction.

It's ridiculous... Martinez used to have incredibly quick and effective lateral and head movement, and good footwork. He also had much better reflexes.

To say that Martinez at 34 couldn't move, bob, weave, bounce in or out any faster than he could at 39, and that by being able to move much better wouldn't help him defend is ridiculous.

And you still bet against the other guy

[BMWM3P]

You care enough to show absolutely no class and insult me. It's people like you that make people not like Cotto. My opinion was that the Martinez of the Chavez fight knocks Cotto out. And I stand by that opinion. A shot Martinez losing to Cotto proves nothing.

Good tell it to someone who actually cares.

[BMWM3P]

It's your opinion it is misguided. That is a fact.




No, I haven't.



Fixed, so that you look like more of an adult.

Again do I have to quote you the definition of a fact.


I believe you have sir


I was just playing, reed.

[New England]

Red is not a fact. For this to be a fact we need to see Martinez in another fight.
Bold is a fact.

you didn't watch the murray fight?

[paulf]

I am the original Sergio Martinez stan on this website. Give me my respect.

Cotto won and Martinez lost. Badly.

That is all there is to say. Move on.

[oc9979]

you didn't watch the murray fight?

Was Paul Williams shot when he fought Lara?
Hatton when he fought Lazcano or Paulie?
What if Martinez fights GGG and beat him. What would you say?

I am not saying Sergio was the same as Chavez or the Williams was but let not act like he was the Castillo or Gatti that fought Alfonso Gomez

[Boxing Goat]

I agree it was obvious Sergio was lacking in his movement but he still wasn't as fast or responsive as he usually was either. That is due to either 1) age and/or 2) the fact that Cotto caught him early and he couldn't recover.

Personally I think it's a combination of both.

That said, I know that Sergio from 2009-11 would not have went out like he did saturday night. That was downright shocking. I didn't see that happening.

[New England]

Was Paul Williams shot when he fought Lara?
Hatton when he fought Lazcano or Paulie?
What if Martinez fights GGG and beat him. What would you say?

you live in a fantasy land.

martinez is going to retire. he is all done. maybe he looks to make dough with easy fights in argentina.

[New England]

I agree it was obvious Sergio was lacking in his movement but he still wasn'ty as fast or responsive as he usually was either. That is due to either 1) age and/or 2) the fact that Cotto caught him early and he couldn't recover.

Personally I think it's a combination of both.

That said, I know that Sergio from 2009-11 would not have went out like he did saturday night. That was downright shocking. I didn't see that happening.

obviously it's a combination of both.

no reasonable / objective posters are denying that martinez was hurt.



cotto beat up a completely shot fighter.