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  • gona22
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    #61
    If you do a treatment with stem cells to regenerate cartilage of an already three times operated knee, takes 1 year and a month to recover and you think that you will win knowing you were not 100%, you clearly underestimated a great fighter like Cotto based only on size and clearly fought for the money. Any top 10 Middleweight had knocked out Martinez last Saturday.-

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    • bopbopbbe
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      #62
      Originally posted by TheHolyCross
      he didn't lose vs mosley, and that's one of his most important fights

      if cotto isn't elite neither is martinez, if sergio had the likes of pacquiao or mayweather roaming in his weightclass, they'd have ***ed him up also

      and the guy that lost to trout was fat cotto, plus just a bad style matchup
      Mosley is Cotto's best win imo but it was a very close fight that I thought cotto eged.

      Cotto was elite and a great fighter at 140-147...not at 154 and up. Martinez was clearly elite at 160 during his tear through pavlik through chavez jr. He started to show signs of wear in the macklin fight, where he was already 38 years old. The 12th round in the Chavez fight pushed him over the edge.

      As far as im concerned he was completely shot already in the Murray fight, where he looked like absolute garbage and was reaaaaaallllly lucky to get a decision.

      I thought there was a chance the surgery and 14 month layoff might be enough for Martinez to bring back some old greatness. He clearly didnt.

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      • PopPop
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        #63
        Sergio needed the money and he's not retiring.This tells you something.

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        • TBear
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          #64
          Sergio had clearance from his physician and wouldn't have went ahead with the fight if he didn't feel he could compete.

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          • bopbopbbe
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            #65
            Originally posted by TBear
            Sergio had clearance from his physician and wouldn't have went ahead with the fight if he didn't feel he could compete.
            Yeah right lol because Martinez is gonna give up a 1.5mil payday and fighters have never fought with a ****ty physical inspection before in the state of NY.

            Yuri Foreman and Margarito both got approved to fight...and we all know how those fights went. Cripple city.

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            • citolindo
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              #66
              Sergio was a 2 to 1 favorite.... everyone kept sayin he is not delvin R. That cotto couldnt hurt trout so how is he gonna hurt sergio... I bet sergio on the fight I lost.... I give cotto his props he is a student of the game and is getting better with time... Dude didnt look good, he look great... Im sure if sergio was washup the betting odds would have been different... By the way vegas doesnt give away free money..

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              • bopbopbbe
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                #67
                Originally posted by citolindo
                Sergio was a 2 to 1 favorite.... everyone kept sayin he is not delvin R. That cotto couldnt hurt trout so how is he gonna hurt sergio... I bet sergio on the fight I lost.... I give cotto his props he is a student of the game and is getting better with time... Dude didnt look good, he look great... Im sure if sergio was washup the betting odds would have been different... By the way vegas doesnt give away free money..
                Nobody knew how bad Martinez had fallen...even the Vegas bookies. The only people that knew were the people in Martinez's camp who would obviously want to hide it. It's no coincidence that the training footage of Martinez consisted only of extremely vague training exercises. I doubt he even sparred once for the fight.

                Cotto only looked great because he was fighting a cripple.

                Dont bother explaining that to a Puerto Rican though cause they will claim you are insulting their mother for not giving Cotto credit.

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                • citolindo
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by bopbopbbe
                  Nobody knew how bad Martinez had fallen...even the Vegas bookies. The only people that knew were the people in Martinez's camp who would obviously want to hide it. It's no coincidence that the training footage of Martinez consisted only of extremely vague training exercises. I doubt he even sparred once for the fight.

                  Cotto only looked great because he was fighting a cripple.

                  Dont bother explaining that to a Puerto Rican though cause they will claim you are insulting their mother for not giving Cotto credit.
                  I guess we gotta wait till his next fight.. then if he looks good some people will still have excuses..

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                  • bopbopbbe
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by citolindo
                    I guess we gotta wait till his next fight.. then if he looks good some people will still have excuses..
                    Martinez is either retiring, or getting retired for good if he fights again. You can bookmark this post for when it happens. Cotto will also most likely get retired if he fights Canelo or GGG.

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                    • j-rod
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                      #70
                      Two questions:
                      Name a top 154/160 lb. fighter that Martinez would've beaten Saturday night.

                      Second, would you pay $$$ for Sergio vs. (Anyone of your choosing) on PPV after what you witnessed Saturday?

                      After all, he's not shot. His knees played no role so why not?

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