Carl Froch has surpassed Joe Calzaghe

[Skip Bayless]

Then neither have surpassed Andre Ward.

dat bute win doe

[IronDanHamza]

21 title defences
Won all 4 titles in division
Won Lineal 168+ 175 title


Froch can't even win Lineal 168 title.

Looks nice on paper.

That's the only way anyone can really praise Calzaghe.

[Box-Office]

21 title defences
Won all 4 titles in division
Won Lineal 168+ 175 title


Froch can't even win Lineal 168 title.

20 defenses against whom?

Lineal titles are great, but can you really compare Calzaghe's resume with Froch's?

The first Groves stoppage is how almost half of Calzaghe's wins happened.

Calzaghe ducked Glen Johnson of all and never fought the big boys earlier in their careers. Tell me how many names did Froch ducked? Froch went out like a Sheriff on a search of those guys aka Super 6 and fought them. Froch earned his respect by fighting all over and anybody in their primes.

[RichCCFC]

The moment Froch lost to Kessler, any chance of surpassing Calzaghe ended.

[Veneficus]

he was #1 so he didn't have to.

When has Ward fought outside of his home town?

I'm not defending Ward either and he wasn't undisputed #1 until he beat Kessler, which again, was in his home town.

Froch was champion and still defended his title in different countries. Froch's resume is also miles better.

[Y0@NN]

46 and 0 doe

[Money_May]

Carl's resume certainly shits on Joe's.

[-Kev-]

I thought he clearly surpassed Joe Calzaghe when he beat Lucian Bute.

Froch still has no win as good as the version of Kessler Calzaghe beat or Hopkins, and I doubt Froch beats Hopkins, even a 50 year old B-Hop. But the sheer amount of names on Froch's resume led him to surpass Calzaghe and his 3-4 good wins. Hopkins, Kessler, Bika, Lacy(the shock/upset value of it at the time makes it a good win) vs Pascal, Taylor, Kessler, Johnson, Bute, Groves, Abraham.

There is still one more fighter i'd like to see Froch fight to see how he would react to the style, that Calzaghe beat in his prime effortlessly, Sakio Bika.

[Veneficus]

The moment Froch lost to Kessler, any chance of surpassing Calzaghe ended.

That was a close fight that could have gone either way in my book. Also styles make fights, that's the most ******ed logic I've ever seen.

[Build That Wall]

he was #1 so he didn't have to.

When has Ward fought outside of his home town?

When Ward beat Froch, he did not fight him in oakland. He fought him in new jersey. Ward just hasn't fought out of the United States. Ward beat Froch with One hand.