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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #31
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    Right.

    Give us proof that he rejected an offer.

    Sounds like he's running by the looks of things though:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...h-Wembley.html

    Just because he's saying he's happy to fight DeGale now doesn't mean he hasn't clearly run from the rematch for years. We have all read the comments he's made in the years since that fight so let's not play dumb here.

    And as we know, Groves isn't the most honourable or honest person so he may very well continue to avoid the rematch despite claiming otherwise. The move to Sauerland looks very fishy.

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    • phatcatboxing
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      #32
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Delusional.

      Groves avoided the rematch because he got lucky the first time and that's the kind of man he is. He ran away with his 1 point decision.
      Not entirely sure why you've highlighted the nearly stopped part of what I've written. I believe it was round 5 when Khatchikian caught DeGale with an uppercut that seriously stunned him and forced him to hold like a needy anaconda while the Dutchman hit him repeatedly with clean shots.

      I admit the DeGale-Groves fight was extremely close, I actually had it a draw but hey-ho it went George's way, but do you honestly believe that he would be afraid of rematching James and Anderson, especially in light of their recent fights, and instead opt to face Froch, a p4p ranked champion coming of the best tear of his career?

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      • Dirk Diggler UK
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        #33
        Originally posted by phatcatboxing
        Not entirely sure why you've highlighted the nearly stopped part of what I've written. I believe it was round 5 when Khatchikian caught DeGale with an uppercut that seriously stunned him and forced him to hold like a needy anaconda while the Dutchman hit him repeatedly with clean shots.
        If DeGale was "nearly stopped" in his last fight then Groves was put in a coma by Froch. Stop the hyperbole!

        Originally posted by phatcatboxing
        I admit the DeGale-Groves fight was extremely close, I actually had it a draw but hey-ho it went George's way, but do you honestly believe that he would be afraid of rematching James and Anderson, especially in light of their recent fights, and instead opt to face Froch, a p4p ranked champion coming of the best tear of his career?
        So Groves fought Froch straight after the DeGale and Anderson fights, did he?

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          #34
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Just because he's saying he's happy to fight DeGale now doesn't mean he hasn't clearly run from the rematch for years. We have all read the comments he's made in the years since that fight so let's not play dumb here.

          And as we know, Groves isn't the most honourable or honest person so he may very well continue to avoid the rematch despite claiming otherwise. The move to Sauerland looks very fishy.
          So you take his words as fact in the immediate aftermath of the fight, but not when he says he would love to fight him again? hmm..

          Once again, he hasn't run from a rematch because he's never been offered one. And you can pull as much "warren appealed to the BBBofC" as you'd like, it doesn't change that fact.

          You just don't like him and you are making up stories to hide that fact. Like the rematch with Anderson. I thought we settled that yesterday, but now you bring it up in this thread as if it's back to square one

          Come on.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            If DeGale was "nearly stopped" in his last fight then Groves was put in a coma by Froch. Stop the hyperbole!



            So Groves fought Froch straight after the DeGale and Anderson fights, did he?
            And who did DeGale fight.......?

            The man who said he'd knock Groves out inside 4 rounds no matter what

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            • phatcatboxing
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              #36
              Originally posted by PrinceNaz88
              Regarding the game plan, DeGale is just as quick as Groves, if not quicker and it would suit DeGale more with Groves coming forward than fighting on the backfoot.

              DeGale has not really fought an opponent who can really test him since. It must have been hard fighting in shopping centres and getting paid not a lot. That must have a big effect on motivation and he claims to have been injured also.

              See how he looks against Gonzales.. he might get beat. Very tough test for him.

              But if Groves beats Froch then him avoiding DeGale to fight Abraham in a unification (which would be an easier fight IMO) would not surprise me.

              Other than unification, I think Groves would have to defend pretty much straight away against DeGale/Gonzales. BUT, he would win WBA and IBF so could just throw the IBF in the bin like he did with the British title if I am not mistaken.
              Fair point. He admitted himself he was injury free in his last fight but "performed down" to his opponents level. Let's just hope he's "motivated" against Gonzales and then we can see where he's truly at.

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              • Dirk Diggler UK
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                #37
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                And who did DeGale fight.......?

                The man who said he'd knock Groves out inside 4 rounds no matter what
                The difference is that DeGale wanted the rematch and has wanted it for years. Groves didn't and hasn't.

                It isn't hard to understand.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  The difference is that DeGale wanted the rematch and has wanted it for years. Groves didn't and hasn't.

                  It isn't hard to understand.
                  Did Groves earn his fight through a mandatory? Yes or no?

                  Did DeGale do the same? No.

                  That's not hard to understand. If DeGale really wanted the rematch he should have made his promoter make Groves an offer.

                  Instead he whinged and moaned like a kid and ran off to Channel 5 to fight in front of 1500 people whilst Groves beat the likes of Paul Smith (much better than DeGale) and Glen Johnson who'd just taken Froch 12 rounds the year prior.

                  Groves has had a better career than DeGale thus far by miles, so maybe you and DeGale should concentrate on that before anything else.

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                  • phatcatboxing
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    If DeGale was "nearly stopped" in his last fight then Groves was put in a coma by Froch. Stop the hyperbole!



                    So Groves fought Froch straight after the DeGale and Anderson fights, did he?
                    Do you deny that DeGale was badly hurt and looked like ass in his last fight?

                    Your claims of "ducking" are completely baseless both in terms of actual evidence and reason. Stop letting your massive bias and personal vendetta against Groves get in the way of thinking clearly.

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                    • Dr Rumack
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Adamjr91
                      He's an eyesore is all.
                      He'd be a sex symbol if he was Mexican.

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