just stop it, there is no way you can argue pac man being #2 p4p

[hugh grant]

Its easy p4p is what have you done for me lately. Pac has just beat p4pno3 Bradley so is p4p no1. Many think Floyd beat Maidana, whilst many other had Maidana the winner. The real problem for Floyd here is that Maidan wasn't considered top 20 p4p. So when Floyd beats Sergio and then GGG he will be above Pac again.

So p4p needs constant reviewing, you can be up and down. Resume Pac will always be better than FLoyds though, unless Floyd gets down to business.

[Best in Boxing]

and who the **** has floyd beat?

ortiz? guerrero? lmao **** off dude

a weight drained canelo does not count, he was a zombie

pac is number 1 p4p, he beat the number 3 guy, the best win on the list for any guy in that pound for pound ranking

ortiz, guerrero and chino are c level, just paper champs dude made by golden boy, they would get their asses kicked by bradley

mosley was coming off a near 2 year lay off to fight floyd, when manny fought mosley, the guy only fought a few months ago

this ranked stuff is bs, the 3 mentioned did not deserve to be top 10 p4p, they were not ranked, history will remember floyd as a cherry picker and his resume is terrible dude

if your only argument is that these guys had a belt, then you should leave

just because that scumbag richard says rubbish in the press about his guys being good, does not mean you need to be silly enough to believe it

gur, ortiz and chino will not even go down top 200 atg list, they will not be hall of famers either

adios, sorry for owning you, make a new thread

Stopped at "pac is #1 p4p".. Hilarious!!

[lewishamboy]

Either Pac or Rigo for #2 spot is good with me

[RyanjLarose]

just stop dude.....you do know when Marquez knocked out Pacquaio he wasnt ranked at welterweight

Rios wasnt ranked at ww when they fought

Bradley fought Abregu who wasnt a top ten contender prior to fighting Manny. He won a controversial fight over manny he was not ranked

How in the hell was mosley ranked at ww when Manny fought him and he hadnt fought at ww since '10 which was a loss to mayweather and he beat Margarito for the top spot back in '08....thats 2+ with no win at the weight, just stop reaching


The only reason these guys are ranked are because they hold wins over Pacquaio....Marquez is 1-3 at ww.....Bradley 4-1 at ww and should be 4-2 he lost to Manny the first fight

Just stop there is no way you can argue Manny having a better resume at 147 than Mayweather or putting Manny #1 or #2 p4p, just admit you reaching...stop making a fool of yourself.

man....your an idiot.

[RyanjLarose]

manny has wins over people at welter weight that have p4p wins themselves at welter weight.....does floyd?

[therealpugilist]

manny has wins over people at welter weight that have p4p wins themselves at welter weight.....does floyd?

come again??

how many fighters were in the top ten at welterweight at the time he fought them?


For Mayweather going waaaay back to 05-'06 Mitchell
was ranked....Hatton wasnt at the time because he decided to move back down to 140 and move up just to fight money after winning the WBA title previously, and Marquez who was also a world champion at the time at 135 was not ranked

Thats three people over 8 years at ww that were not ranked welterweight when he fought them and seven were(Ortiz, Judah, Baldomir, Guerrero, Maidana, and Mosley were


Pac-Man fought DLH was not ranked, Rios was not ranked, Bradley was not in fight 1 he was in fight 2, Marquez was not in fight 3 or 4 at ww, Mosley was not ranked,

Clottey was ranked, Bradley fight 2 was, Cotto

that 3 ranked opponents out of 9 fights( 7 opponents)

[therealpugilist]

man....your an idiot.

idiots dont know how to support a position on a topic with facts, idiots reply with insults when they dont have an appropriate rebuttal

Guess who is the idiot

[Grimgash]

manny has wins over people at welter weight that have p4p wins themselves at welter weight.....does floyd?

The only reason Bradley was ranked as high as he was, the gift robbery vs Pac. Without that he wasn't no #3 p4p fighter. So either he didn't rob pac, or he wasn't p4p #3. JMM is p4p but isn't great at welterweight....so pac being #2 doesn't work. I have him at 4 behind Floyd Rigo and Ward.

[HeroBando]

come again??

how many fighters were in the top ten at welterweight at the time he fought them?


For Mayweather going waaaay back to 05-'06 Mitchell
was ranked....Hatton wasnt at the time because he decided to move back down to 140 and move up just to fight money after winning the WBA title previously, and Marquez who was also a world champion at the time at 135 was not ranked

Thats three people over 8 years at ww that were not ranked welterweight when he fought them and seven were(Ortiz, Judah, Baldomir, Guerrero, Maidana, and Mosley were


Pac-Man fought DLH was not ranked, Rios was not ranked, Bradley was not in fight 1 he was in fight 2, Marquez was not in fight 3 or 4 at ww, Mosley was not ranked,

Clottey was ranked, Bradley fight 2 was, Cotto

that 3 ranked opponents out of 9 fights( 7 opponents)

Mosley was ranked top 5, look it up. Ortiz didnt have a single win at welter proper or a decent win at 140. He forced a catchweight on Berto. Guerrero didnt have a single top 10 welter win and struggled with bum Aydin etc

[therealpugilist]

Mosley was ranked top 5, look it up. Ortiz didnt have a single win at welter proper or a decent win at 140. He forced a catchweight on Berto. Guerrero didnt have a single top 10 welter win and struggled with bum Aydin etc

you cant pick or choose...look it up

Guerrero was top ten at ww, so was Ortiz

if i was wrong correct me....send me a link where it showed mosley was ranked when he fought Pac