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just stop it, there is no way you can argue pac man being #2 p4p

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  • #61
    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
    you cant pick or choose...look it up

    Guerrero was top ten at ww, so was Ortiz

    if i was wrong correct me....send me a link where it showed mosley was ranked when he fought Pac
    https://web.archive.org/web/20110308...1-welterweight

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    • #62
      Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
      you cant pick or choose...look it up

      Guerrero was top ten at ww, so was Ortiz

      if i was wrong correct me....send me a link where it showed mosley was ranked when he fought Pac
      Mosley ranked #5 .... I tried to tell you but you wouldn't listen. Someone else tried ......
      http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_2010

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      • #63
        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        Mosley ranked #5 .... I tried to tell you but you wouldn't listen. Someone else tried ......
        http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_2010


        I checked it out at the end of the year he was ranked #5 i was sure they would have dropped him considering how long it was since he won a fight at ww....which was '08


        thanks fellas stand corrected but this also shows Guerrero and Ortiz rankings

        http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...rweight--2010s
        Last edited by therealpugilist; 05-26-2014, 09:55 PM.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
          I checked it out at the end of the year he was ranked #5 i was sure they would have dropped him considering how long it was since he won a fight at ww....which was '08


          thanks fellas stand corrected but this also shows Guerrero and Ortiz rankings

          http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...rweight--2010s
          ranked 5 was at the end of the year (2010) but that was still AFTER the Floyd and Mora fights

          If my memory serves me correctly, by the time the fight happened Mosley was ranked #3. I think it was because the guys ranked before him lost (Berto) and the other vacated to fight several times at 154 for good (Cotto)

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          • #65
            Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
            I checked it out at the end of the year he was ranked #5 i was sure they would have dropped him considering how long it was since he won a fight at ww....which was '08


            thanks fellas stand corrected but this also shows Guerrero and Ortiz rankings

            http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...rweight--2010s
            Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            ranked 5 was at the end of the year (2010) but that was still AFTER the Floyd and Mora fights

            If my memory serves me correctly, by the time the fight happened Mosley was ranked #3. I think it was because the guys ranked before him lost (Berto) and the other vacated to fight several times at 154 for good (Cotto)
            My memory was correct. Shane was ranked #3 when he fought Manny.

            http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ma...._Shane_Mosley

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            • #66
              People should invent a new name for lists like this

              Pound for Pound is a ordered list of fighters based on who will win if they are the same size. Heavyweight was excluded but anyone is free to rank them but its not based on the actual fighters resume though it is also attributed to that.

              on topic : Pacquiao aT #2 OR #1 for that matter is universally accepted except for Floyd supporters of course.

              except for Marg at 54. Clottey, Mosley, Cotto were all ranked fighters.

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              • #67
                1- Floyd 2-Rigo 3-Pac 4-Ward

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by miron_lang View Post
                  People should invent a new name for lists like this

                  Pound for Pound is a ordered list of fighters based on who will win if they are the same size. Heavyweight was excluded but anyone is free to rank them but its not based on the actual fighters resume though it is also attributed to that.

                  on topic : Pacquiao aT #2 OR #1 for that matter is universally accepted except for Floyd supporters of course.

                  except for Marg at 54. Clottey, Mosley, Cotto were all ranked fighters.
                  Nice pic of flash elorde....who do you think are the top 5 Filipino fighters evet

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                    Dude canelo.didnt perform like a drained fighter, he was befuddled....losing one pound didnt hurt him, the disparity in skills did

                    Guerrero aint no atg at least he was ranked and a former title holder off his biggest victor

                    Maidana was a title holder off his biggest victory

                    Its not always who you beat.but when you do.counts as well

                    Ortiz titleholder after biggest victory

                    Mosley as well

                    Cotto had regrouped and was not recovering from.a beating like when pac fought him


                    Do you even remember the last time may fought an unranked guy


                    In the past few years many fought several and lost
                    Do you have any plans to remove your tongue from floyd's anus any time soon?

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                    • #70
                      p4p rankings should be based on the last 3 or so fights. Pac's last 3 wins are not enough to place him anywhere near top 3 IMO, he should be around 5/6 behind Floyd, Ward, Rigo and the likes...but the Ring p4p list is more of a popularity contest. How can Pacquiao be ahead of the very guy who knocked him out? **** blows my mind.

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