Is Andre Ward still #P4P no.2???

[Rome-By-Ko]

I don't care what the reason is, the fact is he's done absolutely nothing since 2011.

I don't consider that top P4P material.

Part of the layoff is from a shoulder injury. That's understandable. So the 2 times over however many months is not keeping it in context. Since he returned from the injury, he fought within a few months.


He fought the highest ranked opponent in his division in November that he hasn't already beaten. So in actuality its only a 6 month layoff. Since November:

Wlad fought once and beat Leapai. That's not enough to move him up.

Pac beat Bradley and its a great win but he still got KTFO by Marquez. If he beats Marquez he will be elevated.

Marquez beat Alvarado but lost to Bradley. Not enough to elevate him.

Rigondeaux beat Agbeko and has a throwaway fight to end his contract in July. Not enough to elevate him.


These guys have all fought once since Ward was last in the ring. In reality NOBODY is super active these days. If Ward gets a fight within the next 3 months he will be just as active as the rest of these guys.

I don't like it,but Ward is still #2 P4P..

[IronDanHamza]

I don't like it,but Ward is still #2 P4P..

He's not. Well, definitely not in my eyes.

Pacquaio, Marquez, Bradley, Rigondeaux, Wladimir, and others they all have done something in the last 3 years, they may not have been active but one thing they have all done is beaten top guys within recent times.

Ward's not done anything since he beat Froch in 2011.

[-PBP-]

I don't like it,but Ward is still #2 P4P..

Agreed. An injury isn't a loss or a bad performance so it doesn't demote you in the rankings. He keeps his spot and he has until November to fight again against a top opponent.

[Rome-By-Ko]

He's not. Well, definitely not in my eyes.

Pacquaio, Marquez, Bradley, Rigondeaux, Wladimir, and others they all have done something in the last 3 years, they may not have been active but one thing they have all done is beaten top guys within recent times.

Ward's not done anything since he beat Froch in 2011.

He cleaned Dawson clock bro,your really not being fair at all..I also don't wanna hear about the weight either..Dawson signed the contract and nobody was talking about it before Dawson got his azz handed to him..

[Dirk Diggler UK]

He cleaned Dawson clock bro,your really not being fair at all..I also don't wanna hear about the weight either..Dawson signed the contract and nobody was talking about it before Dawson got his azz handed to him..

Yeah nobody was talking about the fact that 6 foot plus Chad Dawson had to move down 7lbs to a division he hadn't been at in years. Nobody even noticed!

[Boxing Goat]

He is in my book, he just fought in November and looked just as good as before. No reason for him to lose his ranking until he either:

1) Becomes inactive for more than a year.

2) Loses in any fashion, or....

3) Wins unimpressively.

[Doctor_Tenma]

He is in my book, he just fought in November and looked just as good as before. No reason for him to lose his ranking until he either:

1) Becomes inactive for more than a year.

2) Loses in any fashion, or....

3) Wins unimpressively.

4) or a good candidate that can take the spot shows up, which none have

[Rome-By-Ko]

Yeah nobody was talking about the fact that 6 foot plus Chad Dawson had to move down 7lbs to a division he hadn't been at in years. Nobody even noticed!

Oh my mistake..Did Chad call Ward out there or was it the other way around??Oh..Which is a very big reason nobody gave two ****s about the weight..Dawson wanted the fight there and called Ward out there..Fucck all,do you just wanna disagree with me,no matter how much of a moron you look like??

[Boxing Goat]

I want to say no,but nobody has done anything to remove him from the spot..The closest was Bradley,but his loss to Pac can't move Ward..As much as Pac's fans wanna believe that his win over Bradley should put him over,it does not..Pac was not even ranked on the list before winning the fight over Bradley..Wlad has a case,yet his comp is horrible..IMO Ward stays where he is,as much as it bothers me to say..

Pacquiao was P4P #7 at the time he beat Bradley.

Oh and btw, that was Manny's lowest ranking P4P in more than ten years.

[Resilient]

Ward shouldn't even be in the top ten, after Groves beats Froch he'll be number 1 at 168, and if Ward wants that lottery ticket he'll have to take his b1tch ass out of Oakland to receive a big check with a big arse whooping to go with it.