Who has faced better competition? Broner or Golovkin?

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  • vman075
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    #51
    Originally posted by Fetta
    Wasnt DeMarco the number 1 guy at 135 and had just blasted Molina, who took Lucas to the brink, in round 1?
    1. I didn't dispute his status at 135, just that 135 was (and to some degree still is) one of the worst divisions in boxing. Although I rank and have ranked Vazquez as the top 135 pounder.

    2. Yea, he caught Molina good in their fight, I'm not arguing that. In the Lucas fight, Molina got the better of Lucas in two rounds of 11 and they were both on single punches, one was to the back of the head. I wouldn't exactly call that taking a guy to the brink. Also thats a triangle theory which are proven to be the dumbest thing in boxing

    3.If you want to believe beat Demarco is a great win, then be my guest, in reality he's little more than a gatekeeper
    Last edited by vman075; 05-23-2014, 01:17 PM.

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    • Fetta
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      #52
      Originally posted by vman075
      1. I didn't dispute his status at 135, just that 135 was (and to some degree still is) one of the worst divisions in boxing. Although I rank and have ranked Vazquez as the top 135 pounder.

      2. Yea, he caught Molina good in their fight, I'm not arguing that. In the Lucas fight, Molina got the better of Lucas in two rounds of 11 and they were both on single punches, one was to the back of the head. I wouldn't exactly call that taking a guy to the brink.

      3.If you want to believe beat Demarco is a great win, then be my guest, in reality he's little more than a gatekeeper
      But beating the guy who is number 1, he was 1, at a division, regardless of whether you think division is good or not, is not considered good now.

      He may be a gatekeeper but when Broner fought this gatekeeper he was number 1 in that division

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      • Xi_
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        #53
        Originally posted by vman075
        Bro Broner's last fight was against Carlos Molina, a guy who couldn't hurt anybody at 135lbs that moved up and was so badly dismantled he retired for a year and a half. Adama was a titleholder at one point, I'm pretty sure Molina was never even ranked.

        Fighting top 10 fighters don't mean **** if the division isn't deep or your in the weakest division in boxing (130,135). Macklin was top 5 before he fought Golovkin, Stevens is a top 10 guy.Demarco ******, he lost every good fighter he ever fought and was losing like 10-0 against Linares in a fight that shouldn't have been stopped to get his title. Your saying Broner moved up and Golovkin won't? Why bc Golovkin hasn't fought Ward and Broner moved up bc he got paid a million and a half to fight a paper champion and grab a vulnerable title.

        Broner is the most overrated fighter in the lat 5 years, he hasn't beaten one guy better than the guys Golovkin's beating and Golovkin is beating them with ease and knocking them out, Broner was getting close/lucky decision wins over them and then stepped up and got destroyed. I'm not even trying to defend Golovkin's resume here bc he needs to step it up, just the garbage your saying is delusional. Saying Broner has a much better resume than anyone is laughable. Gtfoh man
        you're a ggg-tard.....lmao at adama being a "titleholder" at one point....that guy is a tomato at best, gtfoh. macklin wasn't ranked in the top 5 when ggg fought him....stop posting bs. GGG gets credit for beating weaker opposition than canelo or broner and its a damn shame. molina is on par with 99% of the fighters ggg has fought plus that fight was just a confidence builder for broner after coming off an L. maidana is light-years ahead of anyone ggg has fought and broner showed grit in that fight despite the L. GGG is ***** joke......you're not trying to defend GGG's resume because it sucks donkey-balls. Demarco is better than ANYONE ggg has fought and broner dominated him. weak divisons???? 160 is quite possible the weakest division in boxing today and GGG doesn't even have more than two top 10 wins to his name, lmao!!!!

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          #54
          Originally posted by Fetta
          But beating the guy who is number 1, he was 1, at a division, regardless of whether you think division is good or not, is not considered good now.

          He may be a gatekeeper but when Broner fought this gatekeeper he was number 1 in that division
          he says he has vasquez as the top guy but i guarantee you that he'd have demarco at #1 had broner fought vasquez instead.

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          • Fetta
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            #55
            Originally posted by Xi_
            you're a ggg-tard.....lmao at adama being a "titleholder" at one point....that guy is a tomato at best, gtfoh. macklin wasn't ranked in the top 5 when ggg fought him....stop posting bs. GGG gets credit for beating weaker opposition than canelo or broner and its a damn shame. molina is on par with 99% of the fighters ggg has fought plus that fight was just a confidence builder for broner after coming off an L. maidana is light-years ahead of anyone ggg has fought and broner showed grit in that fight despite the L. GGG is ***** joke......you're not trying to defend GGG's resume because it sucks donkey-balls. Demarco is better than ANYONE ggg has fought and broner dominated him. weak divisons???? 160 is quite possible the weakest division in boxing today and GGG doesn't even have more than two top 10 wins to his name, lmao!!!!
            I dont think GGG is a joke cause he seems like the goods but dont think he deserves all the praise he is getting. At least not yet

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            • Larry the boss
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              #56
              So Broner is winning this by a landslide...yet he is called a hype job??? and Golovkin a beast??

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              • vman075
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                #57
                Originally posted by Xi_
                you're a ggg-tard.....lmao at adama being a "titleholder" at one point....that guy is a tomato at best, gtfoh. macklin wasn't ranked in the top 5 when ggg fought him....stop posting bs. GGG gets credit for beating weaker opposition than canelo or broner and its a damn shame. molina is on par with 99% of the fighters ggg has fought plus that fight was just a confidence builder for broner after coming off an L. maidana is light-years ahead of anyone ggg has fought and broner showed grit in that fight despite the L. GGG is ***** joke......you're not trying to defend GGG's resume because it sucks donkey-balls. Demarco is better than ANYONE ggg has fought and broner dominated him. weak divisons???? 160 is quite possible the weakest division in boxing today and GGG doesn't even have more than two top 10 wins to his name, lmao!!!!
                I am not a GGG-tard, the problem with you is you spin the stuff I say or you can't read. You said Broner is fighting top 10 guys. I said fighting a top 10 guy means **** when your division isn't deep then I gave the example that supported how misleading top 10 can be by saying GGG beat two top 10 guys (Macklin and Stevens) and how bad they were. Yet you spin it to make it seem like I'm saying how good his opposition is.

                Adama is not good but your bringing up Golovkins last fight, when Broner fought a guy who is even worse. You say Broners was a confidence builder but he fought on HBO PPV where Golovkin fought a stay busy out of the country not even on American television. Who exactly did you want him to fight in those circumstances?

                Also Demarco sucks, I don't get why this guy is all of a sudden getting so much praise on this thread

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                • vman075
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Xi_
                  he says he has vasquez as the top guy but i guarantee you that he'd have demarco at #1 had broner fought vasquez instead.
                  Yes that's how I do my rankings, based off the guys Broner fights. Jesus christ man. Vazquez hasn't lost in like 8 years and his only losses are to Canelo and Bradley. Thats why I rank him #1

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                  • vman075
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Fetta
                    But beating the guy who is number 1, he was 1, at a division, regardless of whether you think division is good or not, is not considered good now.

                    He may be a gatekeeper but when Broner fought this gatekeeper he was number 1 in that division
                    I'm not saying it wasn't the fight to take at the time or he had much better options (again the division is awful). But looking back on his career will anybody really see that as anything special. It's like Mikey Garcia beat Martinez, it was the best fight to take, he beat a top 1 or 2 guy in the division but does anybody look that highly on that win?

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                    • Mr.Fantastic
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by LarryXXX
                      So Broner is winning this by a landslide...yet he is called a hype job??? and Golovkin a beast??
                      I see your logic but Golovkin is a beast cause he goes for the kill. He has a high KO percentage and has KO'd the majority of his last 10 opponents.

                      Broner on the other hand, talks so much game but rarely produces. He talks as if he's the next Mayweather and such, which he's not. That is why people call him a hype job as well as other things.

                      He hasn't really fought that much good comp(Broner). People are basing it off Maidana kicking his ass.

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