Who is the classier representative of the sport - Lennox Lewis or Wladimir Klitschko

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Lewis resume isn't nearly as good as Wlad's.

Lewis never stopped a single opponent in his entire pro career who hadn't been stopped before by someone else. Wlad has stopped 17 who had never been stopped before.

Lennox fought Tyson and Holyfield when they were past their respective primes.

Lennox's win over a past-prime Mercer was controversial, many thought Mercer deserved the decision.

Who else? The likes of Michael Grant and Andrew Golota?

Nothing compared to the likes of Lepai and Pianeta

[B-Bomber]

Lewis resume isn't nearly as good as Wlad's.

Lewis never stopped a single opponent in his entire pro career who hadn't been stopped before by someone else. Wlad has stopped 17 who had never been stopped before.

Lennox fought Tyson and Holyfield when they were past their respective primes.

Lennox's win over a past-prime Mercer was controversial, many thought Mercer deserved the decision.

Who else? The likes of Michael Grant and Andrew Golota?

I have never been a fan of Lewis but you are grossly underrating him, his resume his much better than Wlad's .

As for Wlad himself, his problem is that he folds under pressure.
Povketin was pressuring him but wasn't throwing much, even then Wlad resorted to a redicolous amount of clinching.

In every other occasion he was forced to trade he simply folded.

That's why I don't think he'd do well with great pressure/inside fighters in spite of his size.

Quoting Cus D'Amato:

“When two men are fighting, what makes you’re watching is more a contest of wills than of skills, with the stronger will usually overcoming skill. The skill will prevail only when it is so superior to the other man’s skill that the will is not tested…."

[Stuntman Mike]

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If bitch **** come after me , I'll have to run.

wow thats Weltz??? looks like the Cola diet he's talking about is in full effect.. the guy has no definition at all... looks like he's wrapped in a skin coloured shower curtain... alos his head looks tiny on that blubber body... but I kinda guessed someone so ******ed would have a small head for that small brain

[LacedUp]

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wow thats Weltz??? looks like the Cola diet he's talking about is in full effect.. the guy has no definition at all... looks like he's wrapped in a skin coloured shower curtain... alos his head looks tiny on that blubber body... but I kinda guessed someone so ******ed would have a small head for that small brain

Yes that's him alright.

Seriously, do yourself a favour and read through this thread: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=630615

The guy just goes complete ****** and wants a shirt off challenge

[Stuntman Mike]

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Yes that's him alright.

Seriously, do yourself a favour and read through this thread: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=630615

The guy just goes complete ****** and wants a shirt off challenge

I suppose with all that fat he probably thinks he could easily outbox and Ko a prime Foreman... heck he's probably Wladimirs next credible opponent


but seriously now you know why he defends fat modern bums.he is one

[Elroy1]

The dude ain't winning a bodybuilding comp if that's what you mean, but you can see the outline of his transverse abs just appearing. That's not fat. It's neither lean or fat. This sort of exaggeration is akin to the exaggeration of modern hw's fat levels.

As for resume comparisons..

WK and LL and VK all of them have very comparable resumes. There can be holes punched in either of them, but they all represent the best real hw records of all time.

Since WK's has been assaulted, another point that Freedom didn't mention is that Lewis had a few close calls and struggles with his win opponents like Mercer who nearly beat him and Mavrovic who done well, Holy held his own etc. and KD's from Briggs and Bruno, opponents he should have massacred.

But with WK we see almost complete dominance.

With KO losses, they are even compared to number of fights, LL's 2 were complete spark outs. WK's, one wasn't even legit, 1 included a headbutt and the other was a gas at a time when he'd never fought that long against aveteran when he was a bit green.

As for opponent quality, they are entirely comparable. Some of WK's opponents were better than what Lennox had.

Sure Holyfield and Tyson were probably above the level of WK's good opponents but NOT at the time that Lenny fought them.

Please note, I can also make a case for Lennox too, I think their records are comparable, I just can't see how anybody can seriously say that WK's resume doesn't cut the mustard compared to Lennox's because that simply is not true!

[Elroy1]

Think of this...

Chagaev outboxes Golota
Chambers outboxes Tua
Haye destroys Grant
Ibragimov beat Briggs and Holyfield
Thomson beats up the Tyson that Lennox fought

Not an unlikely story is it?

[Stuntman Mike]

The dude ain't winning a bodybuilding comp if that's what you mean, but you can see the outline of his transverse abs just appearing. That's not fat. It's neither lean or fat. This sort of exaggeration is akin to the exaggeration of modern hw's fat levels.

As for resume comparisons..

WK and LL and VK all of them have very comparable resumes. There can be holes punched in either of them, but they all represent the best real hw records of all time.

Since WK's has been assaulted, another point that Freedom didn't mention is that Lewis had a few close calls and struggles with his win opponents like Mercer who nearly beat him and Mavrovic who done well, Holy held his own etc. and KD's from Briggs and Bruno, opponents he should have massacred.

But with WK we see almost complete dominance.

With KO losses, they are even compared to number of fights, LL's 2 were complete spark outs. WK's, one wasn't even legit, 1 included a headbutt and the other was a gas at a time when he'd never fought that long against aveteran when he was a bit green.

As for opponent quality, they are entirely comparable. Some of WK's opponents were better than what Lennox had.

Sure Holyfield and Tyson were probably above the level of WK's good opponents but NOT at the time that Lenny fought them.

Please note, I can also make a case for Lennox too, I think their records are comparable, I just can't see how anybody can seriously say that WK's resume doesn't cut the mustard compared to Lennox's because that simply is not true!

Stop reading after this.. Weltz please stop bigging yourself up on a forum .. you have ***** **** and logging on as an alt claiming you have abdominal muscles when we can all clearly tell its just constipation from your pizza and cola diet is truly pathetic

[Suckmedry]

Weltschmerz is a fcking joke I'm actually laughing so fcking hard at all the **** he types, and that shirtless pic just tops it off and the alts he creates to back up his arguments, fck me can this guy get any sadder

[Suckmedry]

Think of this...

Chagaev outboxes Golota
Chambers outboxes Tua
Haye destroys Grant
Ibragimov beat Briggs and Holyfield
Thomson beats up the Tyson that Lennox fought

Not an unlikely story is it?

bro you're like dedicating your life to this ****, if you're really in Australia the mental health helpline is 1800 18 SANE please contact them for your own sake